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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Hamas are gonna get into a vehicle chase and evade the IDF with Mario Kart items

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Just imagining the Hamas propaganda makers proposing what they are doing now to the higher ups and them just being confused what video game stuff is

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Amazing alliterative title for the thread.

Also the amount of useful idiots, especially American ones, moaning about "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!" and saying that it's hate speech are too damn high. Like come on, the US anthem, their countries own anthem, literally says "from sea to shining sea". What do they think that means?

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[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

open link in comment

press back after reading

Firefox takes me to megathread from 2 days ago

have to reload mega and find the comment chain again

angery

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[-] Hohsia@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Best part about last night’s local town hall (aside from a representative from fucking Samsung being there) was the boomer who said the sheriff should look into the cops who were tearing down tents for the unhoused

But yeah, we are so so cooked (the US is lost). Someone from Samsung was in a town with <20K, I don’t think people realize what that says about bourgeois organization

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

20 hours of genocide, 4 hours of ethnic cleansing

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[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just in case there are any extraterrestrials here on earth and observing us (and checking out this website) but you all some sort of “Prime Directive” a la Star Trek… now would be a really good time to ignore that.

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are liberals incapable of discussing or arguing something without resorting to childish insults? I keep getting psychoanalyzed by them and being told that I'm supporting Palestine because I want to be part of a group or making a witty one-liner while demanding I show sources that they never bother to read.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Interesting leaked email from within the BBC. Shows the level of disagreement various BBC correspondents have with the way current coverage is occurring internally. I'd post the full text here but it's too long.

https://thewallwillfall.org/2023/11/07/mutiny-at-the-bbc-gravest-possible-concerns-over-palestine-coverage/

Difficult to tell how much is naivity vs how much is choosing words and phrases diplomatically for the sake of office politics and keeping their job. But huge emails with citations is not a sign of a happy employee.

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Norman Finkelstein challenged Ben Shapiro to a debate moderated by Mikhaila Peterson lol

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

A doctor in Gaza...

The scale of the carnage is reshaping Palestinian society as we speak. Middle age grandparents caring for the orphaned toddlers of their slain children.

Nitter

[-] fusion513@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

Anyone else remember when Trump picked real estate broker and son-in-law Jared Kushner to broker peace in the middle east? Lol. I guarantee the thought process there was just a little racism. frothingfash

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago
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[-] professionalduster@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

when you're definitely not evil

are we headed towards "freedom fries" 2023 edition?

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 1 year ago

Abu Obeida just announced that Hamas has destroyed 160 armored vehicles

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[-] geikei@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone here got any good analysis on the situation in Myanmar. Junta seems to be on the back foot and a couple of (pro china) resistance groups with strong maoist roots that have been participating and co-leading some noticable gains lately. But also large part of the conflict is between them and cartel like militias controling ereas of Myanmar? Are they prominent enough ?

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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Been quite offline in the last three days or so. My aunt in Syria was hospitalized after suffering from a stroke while standing in the kitchen and my wife's cousin in Iraq was in a severe car crash on the same day, crazy how life tries to fuck one over hard sometimes. Thankfully both are fine, my aunt is under monitoring but the fall has hurt her more than the stroke, and my wife's cousin "only" broke her arms and had a concussion. Sent over some money to my cousin in Syria to help out, but I still can't accept how fucked the exchange rate is. I remember exchanging $100 as a teenager in Syria back in 2010 before the war for like 4000 Syrian Liras, now the exchange rate is around 1.3 million liras for $100.

Looking forward to Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah's speech tomorrow. Will most likely be boring for you guys, but I enjoy hearing the man speak and he usually delivers on Martyr's Day speeches. He's a delight to hear in Arabic, especially when you get all the Shia allegory that never makes sense when reading or listening to his speeches in English. On a completely different note, exactly one year since legendary bald man Surovikin announced the Russian withdrawal from Kherson City. One year of not a single successful linebreaking offensive by either side. Starting to slowly believe that this shit will never end and we'll keep talking about Robotyne, Verbove, Kupiansk and Bakhmut three years from now. On another unrelated note, a bit sus how Israel has barely shown any footage of dead Hamas fighters since starting the ground offensive. Are they even killing any fighters, or just driving Merkavas into empty farms and streets and then getting ambushed by Allah's bravest tracksuit-wearing warriors?

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 1 year ago
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://streamable.com/jvz176

Tanks getting blasted. Possibly already in the thread somewhere but I didn't see it so.

Honestly think the place being in ruins makes it significantly harder on the IOF. Ruins are actually easier for infantry to move around in than streets, but significantly harder for tanks. It's also way harder to see infantry in ruins.

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago
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[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ukrainian Armed Forces poster:

Azov vs ~~Orcs~~ Zombies

Bonus points for the F-16s in the background.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

What's the odds of the United Nations going out like the League of Nations?

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[-] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 1 year ago

New Iraqi Islamic Resistance Rocket Al-Aqsa 1 has a range of 300km a carries up to 500kg warhead. Some has already been "delivered" to US occupation bases. 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

https://t.me/SabrenNews22/90399

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[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Liking these boat blocking tactics.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

CW: dark joke, mention of suicideGoogling "How to become an aid worker in Gaza" and the number to the suicide hotline shows up

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Couple good military vids today:

  1. Hezbollah takes out an Israeli squadron with a precise long range ATGM:
    https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1723439058167214185?s=20

  2. Al-Qassam does a high speed drive-by on an IDF soldier followed by a clip of an IED explosion taking out a squadron by using a burning car as a lure:
    https://twitter.com/AryJeay/status/1723449727646122013?s=20

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[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Al Aqsa flood! If only they shut up now, they're still proud! Is it a hell or a flood of tunnel rats that left the oppressed civilians to the kuffar jews? Blah blah blah

  • I am from gaza, my house got blown up and I lost relatives and friends, soon I promise you of Al Aqsa flood 2
[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

> wake up
> man i cant wait to see if we hit 4k comments!

walter-yell walter-breakdown

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[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Whenever my job tries to contact me after hours

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Who will collapse first - Ukraine or Israel?

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[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

South Africa is due to summon the ambassador Eliav Bellend for a reprimand, not only because of diplomatic relations between Isisrael and South Africa have the stability of the Twin Towers, but turns out that the CEO of racism with ties to ukkkraine idf-cool has managed to quadruple the total use of all racial slurs in the world in just a year. Also he accused the SAFM of being a Hamas collaborator and allegedly made several anti-semitic remarks towards groups such as SAJFP, the JVP and Jewish members of the SACP. At least that's my interpretation, as the government hasn't revealed the actual nature of his comments.

PIGPOOPBALLS

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

American ideology, like all ideologies, is worn away by time. During the "calm" periods of history, marked by strong economic growth accompanied by social spin-offs, the pressure the ruling class exerts on its people weakens. From time to time, then, according to the needs of the moment, this ruling class re-inflates American ideology by means which are always the same: an enemy (always external, American society being decreed good by definition) is designated (the Evil Empire, the Axis of Evil) allowing the "total mobilization" of all means to annihilate it. Yesterday, it was communism, which made it possible, by means of McCarthyism, to carry out the Cold War and subordinate Europe (forgotten by pro-Americans). Today, it is "terrorism," an obvious pretext, which prepares the ground for acceptance of the true project of the ruling class: ensuring military control of the planet.

But let us not be mistaken. It is not the fundamentalist ideology with religious pretensions that is in the driver's seat and imposes its logic on the real holders of power, i.e., capital and its servants in the state. It is capital alone that makes all the decisions that suit it, and then mobilizes this ideology into its service. The means used--unparalleled systematic disinformation--are then effective, isolating critical minds, subjecting them to permanent, unbearable blackmail. In this way, the government is able to manipulate without difficulty an "opinion" maintained in its foolishness.

  • Eurocentrism, Modernity and Religious Interpretations - Samir Amin.

Very important to remember this with regards to current events.

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[-] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Terrorism vs. The States monopoly of violence. It's just the politicization of who has rights and who doesn't.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Newest video of fighting inside Gaza. I spy a tank with a "cope cage" (awful term). Al-Qassam Brigades claiming 13 Merkavas damaged/destroyed so far today. This area seems a little more built up than previous videos. The deeper the IDF ventures into the urban areas, though, the denser the tunnels get and the more fighters can come out and ambush at once. Losses will probably escalate from here.

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[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

Uncritical support to Orca Terrorism

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