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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 217 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Budget: Military Complex > CERN

Long term value to citizens: CERN > Miltary Complex

All historical CERN expenses combined are a tiny fraction of the yearly expenses of the combined EU miltary

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago

But particles don't make my dick feel big

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 91 points 1 year ago

Even quarks aren't that small.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They call me quark cause I'm always down to top and up to bottom and I'm charmingly strange. Also I'm very very small

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[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

US Congress: Audit NASA > Audit the Pentagon

EU: Audit CERN > Audit Luxemborg/Malta/~~UK~~

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 210 points 1 year ago

Guys, the trick is to get it partially built and then cancel funding. Then scientists will never trust you to fund anything ever again, and you get to act like science is a waste of money while you're spending ridiculous sums on fighter jets.

Yes, I am still bitter about Waxahatchie.

[-] End0fLine@startrek.website 65 points 1 year ago

Having the corpse of the Supercollider Superconductor in my backyard growing up (not literally) makes me wonder what could have been if the US wasn’t so shortsighted.

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

He's a great video documentary about it by Bobby Broccoli if you want information and have two hours.

https://youtu.be/3xSUwgg1L4g

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[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 157 points 1 year ago

This is cheaper than two super carriers.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 58 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but how many brown children can it kill?

[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

If you ask the scientists in my local Facebook group, it could kill all of them. That is, the ones not already killed by vaccines and 5G.

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[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I was kind of thinking that $22 billion really doesn’t seem like that much money for a project like this.

[-] DrQuickbeam@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

The feds give the states more than $16b per year to build and run shitty, custom made IT systems for their Medicaid programs. It's basically a subsidy to IT companies. There are thousands of examples like this, where spending money on fundamental science is clearly a better investment.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 108 points 1 year ago

This fucks, way better use of 22 billion dollars than usual

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 46 points 1 year ago

But we could kill kids in the middle east somewhere for that money!

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Physics class: "Imagine a perfectly spherical cow moving on a frictionless surface..."

IDF physics class: "Imagine a perfectly spherical bomb moving towards a frictionless Palestinian hospital..."

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[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 100 points 1 year ago

Remember when people were worried about these killing us all by creating a black hole that swallows the Earth?

Can this one just hurry up and do that please?

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 91 points 1 year ago

I'd rather spend 22 billion on this than in Israel or more weapons of war

[-] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

We have wasted way more money on way stupider projects. Would love to see this built rather than the military getting even more money.

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[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 85 points 1 year ago

i hope someday we construct a collider that spans the entire circumference of the earth. But we'd probably have to build one that spans the circumference of the moon first, and then maybe mars, since the oceans are going to be a bit of a doozie to work around that we don't have the technology for, whereas the interior of a collider is supposed to be evacuated, so, the moon almost kinda already handles that for us. heat might be an issue of course, but if we can figure out thermal radiator panels that can dump the heat straight into space, maybe we could pull it off...

mars would address the heat issues, but those dust storms are no joke and the dust itself is microscopic toxic/caustic razors and it'll try to get in everywhere and ruin fine instruments it touches. Moon dust is also really bad but there's no wind to kick it up on the moon obviously...

but damn. DAMN. imagine the fucking science we could get done with a LUNAR-SCALE PARTICLE COLLIDER!!!

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Halo

Just gonna throw that out there

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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Fuck it, orbital collider. Earth deserves a cool ring

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[-] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fun fact, they were going to build one in the US crossing the borders of LA, TX, AR. They even dug out the damn hole, but they shit canned the whole project so now we're just left with a random giant circular hole underground.

Edited AK to AR. That would have been a bit excessive.

Not quite circular, they only got 26% of the tunnel dug. Still, 23 km is quite a long tunnel to leave sitting empty

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[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I think I saw this in an anime once. Something to do with a big Philosopher Stone or something.

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[-] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's an excellent documentation by BobbyBroccoli about that.

https://youtu.be/3xSUwgg1L4g

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[-] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine if only 1/10 of all countries ~~GDP~~ gouvernement spending went to scientists and the patent bullshit didn't exist ? We'd be mining asteroids and sipping coffee on Mars.

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

Mfw this pipe dream costs 22 billion and we just gave Israel 105 billion to keep genociding

[-] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

I'd rather spend money on science than killing innocent people.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

How about one that goes around the circumference of the Earth? That would be boss.

[-] Loudambiance@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

Just go full Dyson Ring and have one in space around the sun, can even use all the surface area to power it with solar panels.

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[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

When I look at the inability to fund big science projects like this, I'm reminded of the most fictional thing to ever happen in a science fiction movie.

The film? Contact.

They build a giant portal machine thing.

Gets blowed up by terrorists.

But that's okay, because they've got another one!

What?

Yep!

"Why build one when you can build two for twice the price?"

FALSE. SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF FAILURE. ABORT.

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[-] kot@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Sorry bro, we spent the 22 billion on the genocide budget.

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[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

STOP ACCELERATING PARTICLES! Years of research and no use found for particles any smaller than SAND!

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 28 points 1 year ago

We need this one to undo the timeline shift the last one caused

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