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All credit goes to the amazing Luna over on Tenforward.social.

Seriously. A fucking awesome person with an even better taste in memes. Also great at giving hugs and a thousand times funnier than I am.

PNG template for the 'This Guy Sucks' part can be found here as provided by the equally epic and truly wonderful Maurice over on Tenforward.social, although originally created by 'ihaveaweirdidea' over on Tumblr.

So happy that I've been able to spend my time lately around two people who are so kind, generous, and incredible. You could do a lot worse than following them on Mastodon. Just saying.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

For those who don't know how much Rick Berman sucks:

“He’d comment on your bra size not being voluptuous. His secretary had a 36C or something like that, and he would say something about ‘Well, you’re just, like, flat. Look at Christine over there. She has the perfect breasts right there.’ That’s the kind of conversation he would have in front of you. I had to have fittings for Dax to have larger breasts. I think it was double-D or something. I went to see a woman who fits bras for women who need mastectomies; I had to have that fitting. And then I had to go into his office.”

-- Terry Farrel

“Apparently someone had told Whoopi that we had written the episode, so she came over and started asking us if she could change one of her lines. And we were like ‘Oh you have to talk to Rick Berman. That’s Rick Berman’s domain. Only Rick Berman can go through and change the dialogue.’ There are some shows where actors just ad lib their lines, then there’s Star Trek where you have to say exactly what’s on the paper. So, I as a courtesy said I would let the production office know that she had a question about the script… Rick’s response was ‘Why the hell was Whoopi Goldberg talking to Eric Stillwell? What was he doing on the set?’ The next thing I know, I’m banned from the set. Just for passing on a message… and it was humiliating, on my episode, that I’m banned from the set.”

-- Trek writer Eric Stillwell

https://heavy.com/entertainment/star-trek/eric-stillwell-working-with-rick-berman/

Unfortunately, the article also says Brent Spiner is a big defender of Berman.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the fact that he was aggressively homophobic and refused Gene's wishes to depict the HIV/AIDS crisis in multiple episodes or even have a gay character on the show, including blacklisting a script about the crisis titled Blood and Fire. Not to mention shooting down the Garak/Bashir connection that both actors actively wanted and refusing to allow Malcom in Enterprise to be gay despite his actor also specifically playing him as gay.

Then there's the fact that he aggressively tore Denise Crosby's badge off of her shirt on her last day then lied about it on Twitter saying that she 'gave it to him'. Or the fact that he's the SOLE reason that Tasha Yar's legacy is being forced into sexual slavery for a high ranking Romulan. Or that he constantly fought with Marina Sirtis about her contract as well. Or that he forced himself on a ton of writing credits just on the off chance that someone might potentially sue him. Or the fact that he was micromanaging everything to do with DS9 and only got worse with Enterprise. Or the fact that he fucking breathed this morning.

Fuck him.

Unfortunately, the article also says Brent Spiner is a big defender of Berman.

Data wasn't perfect. Why should Brent Spiner be. That being said, that's a hell of a character flaw...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget the fact that he was aggressively homophobic and refused Gene’s wishes to depict the HIV/AIDS crisis in multiple episodes or even have a gay character on the show, including blacklisting a script about the crisis titled Blood and Fire. Not to mention shooting down the Garak/Bashir connection that both actors actively wanted and refusing to allow Malcom in Enterprise to be gay despite his actor also specifically playing him as gay.

There was also the push to have a male actor play the main androgynous alien in The Outcast that Riker falls for. Frakes was all for it. Berman nixed it.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I meant to add that and it just passed over my head in the fit of rage I was having while typing that.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I can't blame you for that. There's just so many things to say when it comes to what a horrible person Berman is.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I try not to hate people anymore. It's just too exhausting. I did before, a lot of people, and I'm just so tired.

But that man?

I could be on my deathbed and would still put on a Grandpa Joe type display if I found out that scum-covered amalgamation of used condoms had finally fucking died.

[-] flicker@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

That's a hell of an epthitet. Well said. Damn.

[-] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also: "Since the early 2000's, several writers of Star Trek material, such as David Gerrold[10][11] and Andy Mangels,[12] have criticized Berman's participation in removing and minimizing LGBT themes from multiple Star Trek series, including The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine.[13] Berman has responded by saying that he took full responsibility for the lack of such characters and that he had been working with other producers on including gay characters,[14] telling Kate Mulgrew that such a character would be included "in due time", though no such characters would be included during his time as producer.[15]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Berman

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Didn't really know who this guy was before but what a fucking creep.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Holy shit. Dudes a scumbag.

[-] JWBananas@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

There are some shows where actors just ad lib their lines, then there's Star Trek where you have to say exactly what's on the paper.

Sorry, neither!

[-] raz0rf0x@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago

It's crazy to think how much better an already awesome show could have been without this fuckwit in charge.

Fuck this guy forever.

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