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submitted 1 year ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

House Republicans are struggling with the same battles over government funding that led to the chaotic unseating of former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), seemingly cutting any honeymoon short for new Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.). GOP leadership this week yanked two spending bills from the floor amid disputes on spending and other controversial policy items. With a government funding deadline less than a week away, the conference seems hopelessly divided on how to avert a shutdown.

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[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 55 points 1 year ago

They didn't have the votes so they pulled the bills. Then Johnson called an early recess and jetted off to Paris. 6 days to shutdown.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

About that time for a vote of no confidence

[-] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

The House has been such a shit show that we should have a snap election and elect everyone fresh.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

is that rule still in place that allows any single member to call for a motion to vacate the chair?

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

Far as I know, that rule hasn't changed yet.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Probably for the best actually. With the beating Republicans took this week, moderates might be receptive to a compromise Democrat speaker. Otherwise, the extremist wing will utterly ruin them.

[-] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

moderates might be receptive to a compromise Democrat speaker

I don't think there's a single republican who would risk their next election by considering a democratic speaker, not with Trump's greasy fingerprints all over the primaries. They'll watch everything stop first. It's more likely they'll build a compromise republican that can peel off enough D votes (with significant concessions) but still carry enough Rs to win. To do so, they'd pretty much have to have every necessary legislation planned out for the next few months in order to get the votes and they have to build this coalition in secret or it's doomed.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They're threading a very fine needle. They sank a bill last week that had a lot of abortion restrictions. The moderates are basically stuck between pissing off their base and losing a primary, or pissing off the general electorate and losing the general. They're screwed either way.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They wouldn't have to vote for a Democrat speaker. If they called a new election and enough Republicans abstained or voted present. It's possible Jeffries could become speaker of the Republican held house. Without a single Republican vote. And honestly it may be the best path forward for Republicans for now. If none of them voted for him then it couldn't be held against them realistically. And they could go back to all the things they are good at in the short term. Obstruction and playing victim. It's only kicking the can down the road for them realistically. But they're gonna resist doing the right thing or facing their reckoning till they're forced to.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well, interesting times weren't going to immediately go away with Biden winning 2020 I guess.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of Cruz running off to Mexico

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Which is bullshit he has no busy in Paris.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

By Odin I thought you put bussy and just kinda accepted tge horrifying thought. You must suffer as well now.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah the gods know he’s not getting any bussy in Paris. Maybe Paris Texas and Versailles Kentucky. But fuck he couldn’t even pull a Frankfort twink much less a Frankfurt one.

[-] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago

It included a policy rider that would have nullified a Washington, D.C., law aimed at preventing employer discrimination on the basis of reproductive health care decisions.

Wow.... Just so you know, these guys are so enamored with the idea of taking away more of your rights, it is the make or break point for some of these spending bills.

Some conservatives, meanwhile, opposed the bill because it did not include language to bar funding for a new FBI headquarters.

Why??? They are the ones who screamed not to de-fund the police right?

saying it still “needs to cut spending,” even as it proposes pulling back and repurposing billions of dollars in IRS funding approved by Democrats in the last Congress.

Every dollar we spend on the IRS is reducing the deficit, this is moronic. This will add spending, not take it away.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Every dollar we spend on the IRS is reducing the deficit, this is moronic. This will add spending, not take it away.

That's the plan. The republicans have don't want to reduce the deficit. In fact, it's the Republican administrations are the one's who keep pushing the deficit up.

"Reagan took the deficit from $70 billion to $175 billion. Bush 41 took it to $300 billion. Clinton got it to zero. Bush 43 took it from zero to $1.2 trillion. Obama halved it to $600 billion. Trump’s got it back to a trillion."

The Republicans go out of their way to jack up the deficit and national debt and then screech like harpies that it's somehow the Democrat's fault and the GOP propaganda machine convinces voters that the Republicans are somehow the fiscally responsible ones.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

They don’t like the federal police because the federal police keep investigating them for federal crimes.

They’re totally ok with local cops though.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Not to worry, everyone. It’s fine. Mike Johnson’s gonna call his magical sky daddy who’s going to fix everything nice so there’s never any bad things anymore.

Magical sky daddy’s so great. Everyone should be forced to bodily comply with what a few old white men think he might want at all times so that everything’s always wonderful.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Magical sky daddy fan fiction book clearly says what speaker of the US House of Representatives should and should not do on a daily basis.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

McCarthy could hope to get at least a few Dems to substitute for the right wing crazies. Johnson is a right wing crazy, and there's [ed:]no pool of super-crazy right wingers he can use to substitute for moderate GOP.

I imagine this back-room negotiation, where the moderates told the crazies they can have the Speaker in exchange for just keeping the government open, and now they're learning the lesson we've known all along: right wing crazies never negotiate in good faith.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Johnson can't substitute ultra MAGAs for moderate GOP because the GOP has a razor-thin majority, and so that would still mean he'd need to get Democrat votes. But Democrats will probably not vote for anything crazy that Johnson comes up with, first because it wouldn't pass in the Senate, and second, because they are all watching the GOP implode in real time.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Jesus left some fairly straightforward and unambiguous instructions for his followers. The trouble is that conservatives only want the clout of associating with Christ and the power that comes with the authority of speaking on behalf of God.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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Jesus could do all of the things - cure the blind! Raise the dead! Water to wine! Come back from the dead! Walk on water!

But he was really shit during that one semester of accounting.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

if Jesus can't manage your own House

This line is so pointed and literal. I love that even the Christians are reading the writing on the wall that their group is more akin to satanic than godly, even if they don't realize it

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Brilliant. Thanks for that.

[-] Additional_Prune@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I thought the love of Jesus brought people together and helped them resolve their differences. I guess I should never read a book about, say, European history.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The MAGoos are like a bunch of toddlers who are convinced the family car can fly and the reason it isn't flying is because the babysitter is being mean. They'll keep demanding different minders, but the car will never fly

[-] donuts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
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