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The data showed an increase in hospital admissions of children due to diseases including bacterial infection, RSV, influenza and common cold viruses since October.

Leading scientists said the situation warranted close monitoring, but were not convinced the spike signalled the start of a new global outbreak.

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The standard wording of the alert echoed the first-ever notice about what would become COVID-19, sent on December 30, 2019: "Undiagnosed pneumonia — China (Hubei)."

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[-] IAmWaitingForARetcon@lemm.ee 76 points 1 year ago

Covid has forever tainted China in the eyes of the world in this aspect- few will ever believe them when they say that there’s no novel disease.

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Covid. And Swine Flu. And Bird Flu.

that's just the last 20 years.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago

Swine flu had its first outbreak in America.

[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

It was proven that transmission of swine flu to humans was possible in a study in Iowa in 2004. The same year that transmission to humans actually happened in the wild in China.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

There is no novel disease.

Its Covid. Covid is now endemic and newer mutations are targeting youth.

[-] alternative_factor@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

That's interesting I read that it was Mycoplasma pneumoniae, not a new pathogen but a report says it's resistant to a new antibiotic.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-hospitals-children-pneumonia-respiratory-illness-who-data-rcna126480

[-] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

The concealment of covid data that began about a year ago to hide the truth.

[-] alternative_factor@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes of course China covered up COVID, however I believe that this actually probably is M. Pneumoniae as it's famous for spreading in schools amongst children as well as already resistant to many antibiotics because it has no cell wall.
My one concern is that this could secretly be a human to human form of avian influenza, but there is absolutely no hiding a disease with a mortality rate on par with Ebola (30-50% or 18-30%- as much as Spanish Flu or the black death) for very long at all. COVID has around a 1% mortality rate and there were people posting videos of people dying in the streets on Chinese social media, if it's avian flue than there will be mass graves on an unheard of scale.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

So you agree.

Masks and social distancing saves lives from not only covid, but from a series of other similar pathogens.

[-] alternative_factor@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes masking is essential.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

I call dibs on the toilet paper this time

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago

My brother in Christ, we've all switched to bidets anyway.

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

My comrade in Satan, I switched to bidet in the first few months of pandemic and never looked back.

[-] BitPirate@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Why would you? You don't have to wipe anymore.

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago

If you're not wiping at all, even once at the end, that's disgusting. A bidet isn't sufficient by itself

[-] steebo_jack@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago

I still got my stash from covid...it will be there for the end of times...

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

There is no novel illness in Ba Sing Se

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In much the same way, I wonder if Chinese scientists and other non-party-officers were actually trying to warn the rest of us back in 2020, by all stating the same exact party line loudly and often. Kind of a cross-cultural accident as we're not used to the subtleties of living there?

[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

I trust China. No one from China would ever lie about a possible health crisis.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

While I totally hear you, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. They said it was bacterial infections, RSV, and the common cold, and even leading scientists are saying this is normal. The headline is meant to incite surface level reactions like yours.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

China why do you have to be like this

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The data showed an increase in hospital admissions of children due to diseases including bacterial infection, RSV, influenza and common cold viruses since October.

Leading scientists said the situation warranted close monitoring, but were not convinced the spike signalled the start of a new global outbreak.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

The standard wording of the alert echoed the first-ever notice about what would become COVID-19, sent on December 30, 2019: “Undiagnosed pneumonia — China (Hubei).”

If China would be more open about this stuff everyone would be a lot less worried

[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

To me, nothing has quite damaged China’s reputation more in recent years than how they handled Covid. Yes, I’m aware of the human rights abuses, Hong Kong and all of that. There’s not an excuse to not be fully transparent and absolutely accommodating and helpful to your fellow nations in the face of a global pandemic. This major L for China’s standing in the global community.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

There’s not an excuse to not be fully transparent and absolutely accommodating and helpful to your fellow nations in the face of a global pandemic.

Absolutely. I can't blame them for COVID happening. It was one of the most unique situations of our lives, and it's not like most Western governments did a good job either.

But not cooperating with a thorough investigation into the cause, and taking action to stop it from ever happening again? Being cagey about a possible novel bug? It's like they've purposely chosen to handle this in the least diplomatic way possible.

[-] rosymind@leminal.space 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Their human rights abuses concern those with empathy. The consequences of Covid 19 were felt by almost everyone across the globe (one way or another)

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

If you believe anything China says you're a goddamn moron

[-] Xeknos@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

So we're doing this again, are we

[-] wabafee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Three times the charm!

[-] Lauchs@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Chinese officials say they did not detect any "unusual or novel diseases" in the country following a spike in respiratory illnesses and clusters of pneumonia in children, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

The data showed an increase in hospital admissions of children due to diseases including bacterial infection, RSV, influenza and common cold viruses since October.

Leading scientists said the situation warranted close monitoring, but were not convinced the spike signalled the start of a new global outbreak.

Scientists said the similarity of the two alerts had stirred as-yet-unfounded worries the surge may be caused by another emerging pathogen that could spark a pandemic.

They said based on the information so far, it was more likely to be a rise in other common respiratory infections like flu, as was seen in many parts of the world after COVID lockdowns were lifted.

The rise in respiratory illnesses comes as China braces for its first full winter season since it lifted strict COVID-19 restrictions in December.


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[-] Endorkend@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago
[-] wabafee@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Oh boi here we go again 💀

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To quote the blurb in the post that apparently no one read:

The data showed an increase in hospital admissions of children due to diseases including bacterial infection, RSV, influenza and common cold viruses since October.

Leading scientists said the situation warranted close monitoring, but were not convinced the spike signalled the start of a new global outbreak.

[-] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

Remind yourself that there are people even in normal countries defending ch*nas communism, policies and culture. That shithole has to be plugged off from the rest of the world by any means necessary, no one in, no one out

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