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[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 166 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The party of "patriotism" everyone. This is their guy... the same guy whose defense for trying to overthrow the government and install himself as dictator is "I never said I swore an oath to uphold the constitution"

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Not just that, but the ones for whom the freedoms enshrined in the Constitution are the beginning, middle, and end of their entire personal identity. They have a section of the Constitution tatooed on their fucking bodies, and they still support a man who would just as soon use the damned thing as toilet paper.

[-] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago

If Trump can argue the technicality that he never specifically said "support", we can argue ths technicality that the 2nd doesn't specifically say "guns".

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It says the right to "bear arms." So if I want to graft a pair of cybernetically enhanced black bear arms to my body, I should have the right to do so! (As part of a well organized Bear Arm Militia, of course.)

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[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Anyone who makes one thing^TM^ their entire raison d'etre is always a little... let's go with off for politeness. But the 2^nd^ Amendment ones are just walking red flags.

[-] kometes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Can penis size be negative?

[-] ma11en@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah but the guys who have that problem tend to be way less insecure than this guy

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Second Amendment is so awkwardly worded. You can tell it was initially drafted, then the middle part of the sentence (third line on that guy's back) added in later.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 year ago

The us right wing is entirely the "there must be outgroups to bind and in groups to protect" mindset. Everything else is after the fact justification.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago

The presidential oath of office that Trump was required to recite during the swearing in ceremony:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

[-] radix@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago

It dOeSn'T sAy "sUpPoRt"!!1! ChEcKmAtE lIbS!!

(I feel dirty now)

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 73 points 1 year ago

That's literally the legal defence they are using.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

The “I’m not touching you” defense.

[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

See also the, "We'rE NoT A DeMoCrAcY" set.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The 2nd amendment says nothing about guns/firearms. It was written as arms. It specifically talks about a militia and being able to keep things. It also says that we have the right to obtain the arms of bears (bear arms). There is literally no precedent to allow anyone have a gun.

It’s pretty explicit in what they wanted.

/s

This is why trying to argue based on literal words, and not intent, is dumb.

[-] radix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution defines the powers of Congress, including:

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

According to the words of the Constitution, Congress can't appropriate any money to the Air Force.

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But didn't you see he had his fingers crossed? That means he doesn't have to do it!

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

They're trying to play semantic games and claim that supporting is not the same thing is preserving, protecting, and defending. It's a laughably bad argument and hopefully it gets struck down pretty much immediately.

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[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

"Preserve, protect, and defend, but not support. Checkmate liberals!!!"

  • Some Random Attorney Trump Dug Up From the Bottom Of The Barrel
[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

What a piece of shit. How can anyone support this trash?

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 year ago

Because they too are pieces of shit.

[-] zzzzz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Or dumb. Or not paying attention. Or some combination of the above.

[-] dbilitated@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

they're paying attention to propaganda

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[-] rbhfd@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Imagine being ~~brainwashed~~ bombarded on a daily basis with messages of how leftist will take over your country and how Trump will save them

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I am. Still see through it

[-] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago

"The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." - H. L. Mencken

[-] bender223@lemmy.today 66 points 1 year ago

wait, so does that mean he was never actually president?

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 23 points 1 year ago

I guess his supreme court nomination are void then. Nice.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Worse than that, he wants the job again, and he's on his way to being the Republican nominee.

[-] tryagain@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

He's going to win and he's going to finish the job of dismantling the United States of America. He's quite open about it.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Apparently the oath that military folks take actually has the word "support" in it, but the one the president takes says "preserve, protect and defend."

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[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

Donald Trump... the sovereign citizen of world leaders.

[-] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago
[-] Rockyrikoko@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

No, he is bought by foreign influence and has discovered a way to monetize dismantling the United States

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Can be both.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago

When are we going to collectively decide to excise the cancer that is Christian Conservatism in the U.S.?

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

All of these morons have happened before and all of these morons will happen again.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Hopefully soon. Republicans have been losing big because of abortion, and they're incapable of controlling the narrative because the lunatics are running the asylum.

Generational change was happening slowly, and then the Republican conspiracy theories with COVID accelerated it as elderly red voters died who could otherwise lived. Abortion being overturned has lit a fire in young people to actually get to the polls too. Going all in on Trump has also irreparably tainted the party for upper middle class who'd otherwise vote for him.

I don't know if the history books will say it was 2020, 2022, 2024, or 2028, but I'm very hopeful that sometime this decade will be when American conservativism is rendered unviable. We just need one more big push.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 year ago

His supporters should be really mad about this. Generally they are the ones that invoke the Constitution anytime their lifestyle is inconvenienced.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Yeah but everything they do and say is in bad faith.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

When “Donald Trump says….”

What follows is absolute bullshit.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And Donald Trump said ….

Nothing, you idiots, Donald Trump’s dead, he’s locked in my basement.

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

His personality disorders renders him incapable of supporting the Constitution.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Trump feels he is more important than it.

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

He probably had his fingers crossed and his ears stuffed with gold cheese puffs

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[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ever think about how if Bill Clinton had called the mother of a recently KIA marine without knowing his name we would still be hearing about it?

I haven't heard about that since the month it happened.

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[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I can't wait for the mental gymnastics MAGA people will do when they get asked about this.

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