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Wayland vs X11 be like
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There is no one devoloping for x11 anymore, it is abandonware and dead (even if still usefully sometimes) wayland isn't the new shiny thing but it has been getting devoloped so so slowly and getting little support, because the focus on x11. Death of x11 is better for everyone
Is something like barrier/synergy already working with wayland?
I wanted to try it so badly, but controlling multiple computers with one set of keyboard & mouse is quite essential to my workflow.
Also, does X forwarding over ssh work in some way?
Like, can I open remote GUI programs over ssh on my wayland, like on X11? And less important for me, but still, also the other way round?
Thanks upfront!
I have some FOMO here, but last time I checked wayland couldn't provide me those things, I need for work :-(
I just switched from fedora 39 plasma to green debian, it's been very pleasant to have "it just works os" take care of things, including X11 just doing it's regular old thing.
But if course, Wayland is the future and I will happily use it by the time it becomes stable enough for a debian release. Go Wayland!
This is the way.
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Debian has had Wayland for ages tho. It's the default for Gnome since 2019.
You're right, I didn't think of that. Cinnamon sadly is X11 for now.
Kde plasma 5.27 works great on wayland
Sadly not on NVIDIA hardware :/
what's green debian? debian with cinnamon?
Probably LMDE?
Yup, lmde
So a small tip, dont use Cinnamon XD but everyone uses what they prefer
The whole point of using Linux is the freedom that we can use what we want. Don't play down other DEs you might not like, because the variety is what makes our environment amazing.
You can use what you want. I just say X11 is not developed anymore really, since years. It is decades old and insecure by design. Wayland just works, if not supported XWayland is chosen automatically.
If you use MacOS or Windows today, you will see that Linux has no permission system at all. This is simply insecure.
I like cheese so I should use X11
I.... Like.... potatoes...?
I thought you loved the foot-y goodness?
Based and cheesepilled
Not sure where the current wave of FHFIF memes are coming from, but I'm here for it lmao
I'm an adamant believer in its untapped meme potential
should watch some of it again tbh, watched it as a kid and I loved Wander Over Yonder, one of McCracken's other shows.
stupid old man rant:
spoiler
KDE making random features only available on wayland for no reason like trackpad gestures because memes
GNOME being GNOME which is being useless anyway
And literally everyone else is still using X11 by default, unless you count the 20 random github compositors that no one uses.
I would switch to wayland if it had any actual immediate benefit, especially in performance, but as far as I have tested it doesn't.
Will probably join it in 2030 when the xfce devs wake up from their eternal slumber and make an update for it
Used Wayland, tried Hyprland. Was cool, somewhat buggy.
Switched to XMonad. No more issues.
Wayland is probably the future, but I just want something that works now.
Well x11 apps are in Xephyr
I would switch if all my DWM patches worked on DWL, but till they write the same patches for DWL I'm sticking with X11
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Anyone that still wants to use x11 can attempt to maintain it themselves.
this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2023
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