Democrats Clash Over Move to Add Asylum Changes to War Funding Bill (www.nytimes.com)

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

According to participants, the two sides have agreed in principle that migrants claiming a credible fear of persecution in their home countries must meet a higher bar to prove their concerns are well founded. They remain at an impasse, however, over whether to change policies governing when and where people entering the United States without permission should be detained or paroled into the country until their cases can be heard by a judge.

In principle, what this means is that if you're queer and there's a country that you are fleeing from because they want to kill you to come to America where it is, at least, legal to be queer (for now)- fuck you. You're going back to die.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

The thing almost nobody wants to say that's driving this (imo) - the ruling class sees the writing on the wall for global climate change and knows that lots of poor desperate people are going to be fleeing for their lives over the coming century, and their response is to tighten things down as much as possible so all those people die quietly away from the cameras

[-] quindraco@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Well, of course not. What you'll do is come to America illegally because the legal method won't work.

It's just like how the GOP tries as hard as it can to maximize abortions by limiting access to contraceptives: this is an attempt to maximize illegal immigration by making legal immigration less and less of a real prospect. The GOP would much rather any immigrant be illegal than legal - e.g. because they can then pretend this problem is caused by Biden and use it in their rhetoric.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Of course, it can be argued that it's by design. Hiring undocumented immigrants at far below minimum wage makes companies money and they rarely get significantly penalized for it.

[-] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago

why cant they seek refuge in Mexico? several friends of mine (that are gay) moved down there for that reason. one of them got his Mexican citizenship after 8 years or so just a few months ago. he sure looks a lot happier on his fb posts.

[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

"The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink."

[-] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

Can we not. I prefer punches

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Everybody loves shitting on the Democrats, but I just want to point out that Republican leadership is demanding concessions for merely bringing popular bipartisan legislation up for a vote. Everything is the debt ceiling now. Hamas ain't the only one taking hostages.

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