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[-] Reverendender@kbin.social 147 points 1 year ago

@fne8w2ah "Two of the central players of the operation, Roy M. Cox and Aaron Michael Jones, were under lifetime bans against making telemarketing calls following lawsuits by the Federal Trade Commission and State of Texas."

WHY AREN’T THEY IN JAIL

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How much money were they making off telemarketing that they were fucking banned for life from doing it and they still did it?

Also:

At the time, the FTC said that Cox was issued "a $1.1 million civil penalty that will be suspended due to his inability to pay.

Oh ok, so this fine for more money will certainly mean something...

[-] gullible@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

I feel like we have places to put people who ruin society. Was it mail, rail, shale? I dunno, set them free and bring me a coffee, bailiff.

[-] iyaerP@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I feel like at this point we just go full Spanish Inquisition and burn these motherfuckers at the stake.

[-] Zeron@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Political theatre to make it seem like they're doing something about the issue. When in reality, nothing changes.

[-] xodoh74984@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Anyone got a number?

I have some very important information for them regarding expiration of their vehicle warranties.

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That would be a good penalty for them. Their phone number(s) must always be public so anyone can call them whenever they want.

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[-] jcrabapple@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

I don't understand why these people weren't in jail already!

[-] pixelscience@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I don't get why this seemed to be such a huge undertaking. The phone companies certainly know who's making all these calls on their networks.

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 34 points 1 year ago

The phone companies certainly know who’s making all these calls on their networks.

Exactly. If the networks faced consequences for knowingly routing and profiting off these illegal phone calls they would stop fairly quickly.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cause they were complicit.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

i assume someone was making money off this, and has made enough money to get rid of them so other people don't make money...

[-] rapscallion@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

It’s kind of amazing how we’d been answering phones when they rang for a century, until a handful of greedy wankers like these guys and the offshore “calling from Windows” folks started doing their thing a few years ago. Now only the elderly and folks required to answer for work even contemplate picking a call up.

[-] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

I don't answer my work phone anymore. Our company uses teams. So if it's not a teams call, you can't make me answer the phone.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I haven't had a legitimate phone call on my work line in the last 8 years. Anyone who truly needs to talk to me has my cell number and several other ways to contact me.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I got so many spam calls I considered changing the number I've had for over 2 decades. So obnoxious.

[-] rapscallion@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t recommend that. I did it once for the same reason and got just as many spam calls plus debt collectors trying to reach the person who had the number before me.

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[-] brianorca@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's not your number. It's all the numbers.

[-] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good to see the FCC going after this kind of thing. Put them in jail even better.

I have my phone set up so the only numbers that chime the phone are those in my contact list. The abuse of voice and text on the cell network is rampant and it's equivalent to trespassing.

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[-] Pergle@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago

Shred all robo caller companies and give the owners jail time.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 26 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


"An international network of companies violated federal statutes and the Commission's regulations when they executed a scheme to make more than five billion robocalls to more than 500 million phone numbers during a three-month span in 2021, including violating federal spoofing laws by using more than one million different caller ID numbers in an attempt to disguise the true origin of the robocalls and trick victims into answering the phone," the FCC said.

"Since at least 2018, this enterprise operated a complex scheme designed to facilitate the sale of vehicle service contracts under the false and misleading claim of selling auto warranties," the FCC said.

"Two of the central players of the operation, Roy M. Cox and Aaron Michael Jones, were under lifetime bans against making telemarketing calls following lawsuits by the Federal Trade Commission and State of Texas."

The FCC said it took action to block the robocalling scheme last year by directing "all US-based voice service providers to cease carrying traffic associated with certain members of the enterprise.

The FCC coordinated last year's action with the Ohio attorney general's office, which filed a lawsuit against Jones, Cox, and others involved in the alleged robocalling scheme.

Cox was banned from telemarketing in a 2013 settlement with the FTC, which accused him of sending "illegal robocalls offering credit card interest rate reduction programs, extended automobile warranties, and home security systems."


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[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Can someone make a TL;DR bot the TL;DR bot?

[-] Parabola@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

BEEP BOOP. Omega-TLDR bot activated.

Two trash humans were asked nicely to not do it again, and did it again. don’t worry though the prison cells they should have been locked away in are filled with minor drug charges by minorities or something else equally stupid.

TLDR: the perpetrators were trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Now do political campaigns.

[-] aufheben@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Fines aren’t near enough at this point, we need public executions at a minimum to put a dent in this problem.

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

No killing them is too extreme. Put them in a room with 1,000 different types of ringing telephones for a week.

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

Not gonna help. Not accepting calls from unknown numbers and/or automated filtering is the only way forward, the model of being able to just call anyone is broken.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

So, what tiny fraction of their profits does this fine represent?

[-] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ya I appreciate the gesture but if this truly is the "biggest" robocall racket I have to imagine a 300M fine is a dropping the bucket

Not Like they will pay it anyway.

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[-] exohuman@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

How many of you have received these calls? I got a ton of them along with my husband and siblings.

[-] Wilshire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Those were partly the reason I stopped answering unknown numbers.

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Spam callers have basically ruined telephone as a medium. For many, a phone call is more likely to be fake and spam than it is to be legitimate. And even if the call claims to come from a source you might trust, good odds it's spoofed and thus cannot in fact be trusted.

A shame on telecoms for not being willing to tackle the problem.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 9 points 1 year ago

Both email and the telephone have been ruined by spam for me. The inbox has become an unwieldy, inefficient mess.

[-] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I'm even getting Google Drive spam now. Complete randos "sharing files" with me. There's no way to prevent it.

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[-] Sensitivezombie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Ban all robocalls, legal or illegal. If any business that needs to reach can leave a voicemail. I'll decide then which should be deleted and which required a call back.

[-] tehcpengsiudai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

$300M feels like "Ahh we caught you now, bad boys, don't let me catch you again. Now go have your lunch."

These people should be punished harsher for all the lives they've destroyed intentionally.

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