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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

bitches be like "astrology isn't real" and then post this shit

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

It's astrology for dudes who think they're too rational and smart for astrology

[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

no you're thinking of libertarianism there

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

Libertarianism is ~~reactionary politics~~ pedophilia for dudes who think they're too rational and smart for reactionary politics

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 9 months ago

I thought that was Vox Day's extended male hierarchy?

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago
[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

no that's multi level marketting for dudes with no social network to prey on financially

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No that's NFTs (but yes also crypto)

[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

No, crypto is stockfuckery for dudes who think they're too smart and rational for banking

[-] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Asking me if I like to be the center of attention at parties, in an attempt to describe my predilections/ predict my behavior RE parties, is no more helpful than asking me where Titan was when my mother died.

[-] shath@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago

wow i love the corporate use of bullshit personality tests to be able to say no to giving someone a job because they have "undesirable characteristics"

i love it so much i would like to stomp it to death

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

Yeah its some real creepy eugenics shit

[-] shath@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

hello i am a INFP and you are an ENTF and so you cannot be near me see the corporate internet told me so

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Seriously, I need to give Bullshit Jobs a read. None of this shit would ever come into fruition if employers all weren't such picky assholes that demanded exclusively perfect squirrels for even a cashier position.

No one would need to invent 20,000 different ways to the so-called unemployables 'no' when they need a job.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

Want to point out this isn't even Jung's fault, it's some crank woman who fucked up his already shit theory.

[-] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

Erm I'll have you know Owl that I'm INTP

I Need Toilet Paper (i shitted myself)

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

Astrology for comms majors

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Class selection for real life gamers

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

Fr, a bit of a red-flag.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My kindle wraps sentences like this

[-] python@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

INTPs be like "I'm rational and logical" but then hang out in the bathroom at 3am while cutting their bangs and shitposting, smh

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

Myers-Briggs are just horoscopes for people who don't believe in horoscopes.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

I dated a lovely lady who put too much stock in that Meyers Briggs stuff. I mean, it's whatever, do your thing, but then she started to apply it to me. That's when it started to get annoying.

It's not the only reason we broke up but it is the funniest.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

It's crazy how much I've seen people list these things on their dating profiles.

[-] shath@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

people should post their daily i ching readings instead

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

these kinds of tests concern me because when i was a kid i had to get therapy to learn empathy because i had a borderline sociopathic disorder

and the good news is that therapy works and empathy is something that can be learned especially if you are young because it worked for me

but im always super freaked out because i do still have adhd and im worried whenever some workplace pushes a test like this it'll expose me to my workplace as a sociopath who doesnt work well with others and that will come back to bite me

and additionally every question on a test like that gives me an existential crisis and a crisis of identity because my mind sometimes struggles with over analyzing what i feel and what ive worked so hard to instill in myself which is part of the therapy so its like an internal struggle session for the whole thing super fucking stressful and has me second guessing my every answer

[-] space_comrade@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

but im always super freaked out because i do still have adhd and im worried whenever some workplace pushes a test like this it'll expose me to my workplace as a sociopath who doesnt work well with others and that will come back to bite me

These kinds of tests are usually similar to astrology in the sense that there are no bad results, every personality type has like strenghts and weaknesses like you're a fucking pokemon. It's horribly unscientific it's just meant to sound nice to managers don't worry.

[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Enneagrams 2, 7, 8 BTFO

[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

A make-work program for HR professionals

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

I don't like Jung either, but this isn't really his fault

[-] Satanic_Mills@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We had to do Insights Discovery training at one of my old jobs, which simplifies this to four 'colour energies' to make it easier to remember.

My manager after this starting reducing everyone's behaviours down to their assigned colours; my coworker wasn't a condescending prick, he was just 'being very red, which was good for the group colour balance'.

The trainer also stated that outsourced public project cost overrruns are due to 'too many yellow energy managers'.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Haha true! That's such an INTP thing to say! so-true

[-] stewie3128@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

The Psychologists in my family only refer to Myers-Briggs in an anecdote from grad school: it was used as the ideal example of how to design a terrible test.

They say that, if you're going to do a personality test, long-form MMPI is the best of them, but personality tests are just academic exercises that don't tell the therapist as much as they could learn by just talking to the patient.

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

I can (and will) reject any philosophical tradition that gave rise to Jordan Peterson off the cuff

[-] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Inventory of questions about my behavior has no correlation or predictive value about my behavior

Y'all are so goofy about this shit.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Jungian psychology is outdated and disproven pseudoscience that uses unscientific and crank methods to determine personality traits. For example, the personality types quiz will categorize you as an emotional or rational person, throwing out the possibility of a person being both out with the bathwater. Especially when you consider that recent studies into empathy, emotions, and intelligence are actually deeply linked and you cannot have one without the other.

[-] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A Buzzfeed 'which bread are you' quiz is also an inventory of questions about your behavior but I don't see anyone using it to decide what job I should have

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

That's not what they're saying. It's a reductive measure that turns people into 16 categories, some of which are disproportionately selected against in jobs.

I can do the same job as someone who scores differently, but an interviewer can use it as an excuse to exclude me. A lot of other ND people feel similarly.

Then throw in the arbitrary history, most people can't even say what the mbti actually measures.

It's got too much influence for something that can't actually predict about a person, especially if they can change just lie to get a favorable score. It just puts more work on people.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

It doesn't when you don't even get consistent results from the same person over multiple tests

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You'll answer questions differently at different times of day and on different days of the week, all dependent on personal variables that are in constant flux. You're a different personality type before and after a nap, for example. It's nonsense.

[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

idk i kind of liked Answer to Job and the Red Book (seriously it has some baller art even if the text is basically mystical german nonsense)

but seriously like every single psychology 101 class will tell you that freud and jung's psychology are outdated and unscientific, idk why people still take this stuff seriously.

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