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Donald Trump Has the Worst Economic Record in Modern U.S. History (democrats.org)

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[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 176 points 10 months ago

The amount of people here commenting authoritatively about this is disheartening.

Trump's economic policies were insane. I remember looking at his campaign platform and seeing tax cuts everywhere and with no way to pay for anything.

I remember him shuttering valuable tools like the pandemic response teams because he wanted to tear down the success of previous administrations.

I still remember him mocking our military, displaying state secrets on national tv, trade wars that destroyed American jobs, diplomatic decisions that ruined international relationships.

I remember immigrant children locked in cages.

I remember the rule of law being absolutely trampled in order to achieve nothing. Just norms and institutions being torn down.

Trump accomplished nothing and made literally every facet of our government, politics and economic life worse.

He performed a political pump and dump and the entire world is still picking up the pieces.

He is a fascist and categorically the worst president we've ever had and every person here saying, "well actually..." should be ashamed.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 10 months ago

While I agree I'd be careful with "I remember immigrant children locked in cages." If you don't want all the "ObAmA StArTeD iT aNd BiDeN CoNtInUeD!" comments lol

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 126 points 10 months ago

Trump was the worst President in U.S. History.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

I would say second-worst after Andrew Jackson. Hard to beat genocide in order to make a massive land grab.

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 56 points 10 months ago

Personally, I'm very bitter about the completely awful effects of Reagan's tenure. Literally turned the office into a Hollywood act; you know damn well he wasn't calling the shots. He was there to draw people's attention.

[-] highenergyphysics@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

He also defunded 99% of American science to pour billions into a hole in Texas that never had a chance of working.

Ever notice how all major breakthroughs these days come from non-US scientists? The scene never recovered.

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[-] Mellibird@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago

Let's not forget the "war on drugs" as well. A lot of awful things came from the Reagan era.

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[-] SapphironZA@lemmings.world 11 points 10 months ago

Not to mention that he changed economic policy to ensure the boomer generation will dominate all following generations.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 months ago

If Drumpf gets a second term, I think he'll be going for the high score.

[-] SmarfDurden@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Dismantling democracy would definitely put him over the top

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

Tbh Andrew Johnson (became president after Lincoln was assassinated) is pretty high up there, too. I might actually put him ahead of Trump in terribleness, because a lot of the regressive societal shit we are dealing with now - and have been dealing with for around 150 years - can be directly attributed to Johnson’s softball treatment of the Confeds during reintegration.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Trump/Kushner did try to weaponize the COVID response against blue regions that voted Democrat. That's pretty bad

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[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, among the most evil maybe, but he was successful in what he did at least.

Can't forget that Trump if anything killed millions not even because he was trying to, but outright negligence.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Trump activity attempting to overthrow the Federal Government pushes him beyond Jackson. Moving the Southeast Tribes to Oklahoma was a fall out of the War of 1812 against the Tribes who joined the British. It doesn't remove how horrible that was. Moving so many people during a pandemic of Yellow Fever was inexcusable. Obviously Jackson didn't care.

I still think Trump attempts to overthrow the government is worse as well as losing 20 million jobs, making the Covid pandemic worse by inaction, and all his criminal activity.

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[-] yOya@lemm.ee 67 points 10 months ago

Show this to any trump fan and they'll just say:

"No, he didn't". And that's it. You can't reason with trump supporters.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago

Stock market went up! Best president ever!

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Ok, the stock market is at a near record high right now, under Joe Biden. Does that mean Joe Biden is now the best president ever?

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

Nope. Why? Because [reason they just invented off the top of their head and will forget in five minutes].

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Me= Obama was the one who got bin Ladn

GOP =No, it was the troops that got bin Ladn.

Me = So, Bush dressing up like a fighter pilot and pretending he'd done anything was a giant insult to the real heroes?

GOP = Why do you hate America?

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

Let's be clear though, it wasn't because of his economic policy, it was his thorough mishandling of covid that got one million Americans killed which was the problem.

[-] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

More significantly yes but let's not forget the massive tax cuts and regulation destruction he did

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[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

I don't that his brainless decisions regarding economic policy did anything but make it worse.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 23 points 10 months ago

Remember his trade wars with...everyone? And then he renegotiated the same agreements but worse?

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[-] Hux@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but the man didn’t do anything without the combination of someone telling him to do it and somehow that thing being made worth his while.

So, why the hell would he decide/be-told to disband the US Pandemic Response team in May 2018?

https://x.com/atomicanalyst/status/994696175575068672?s=46&t=g3yM8UdEINqcLyXIxWs-lg

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

Apparently, Trump had a beef with his National Security advisor, and that advisor was good friends with the admiral in charge of the pandemic office. So, to punish the Advisor, Trump closed down his buddy's office.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

It’s all so petty. And people still want this person to have power. Society is so confusing.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

These thoughts are not original to me.

The Boomers were mostly raised by people who'd survived the Depression and WW2. The parents were deeply scarred by those experiences and told the Boomers they had to be 'tough.' The Boomers grew up in a world of plenty, and never had any idea of what 'tough' really was. Men like Reagan and Trump, who built their image as 'tough guys' never got within a mile of actual combat. This is perfect for Boomers who spent their lives avoiding real conflict while thinking of themselves as bad ass pioneers.

The other thing is 'Future Shock.' A sociologist named Alvin Toffler and his wife wrote a book back in the 1970s. The idea of 'future shock' was that as the Industrial Age died and the Digital Era bloomed, a lot of people would be unwilling/unable to adopt to the changing world. They woudl try harder and harder to keep the past alive, even if it meant killing the future.

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[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 10 points 10 months ago

I think they handled it all according to the plan. It allowed them to sow distrust in everyone from doctors just trying to save people's lives, to the very government he was in charge of. It basically set the hook for his cult of "you can only trust me". And his cult believes that millions are going to die from the vaccine, and at the same time that people dying from COVID is "fake news".

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

To be fair, even if Trump did manage the pandemic like a sane person, the economy likely would’ve still taken a massive pandemic hit.

Other nations, with better public health policies and lower losses of life, also saw a bonkers hit to economic indicators.

[-] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

You can’t say that about the rampant spending that took place during his administration. Conservative fiscal policy be damned!

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

They are only concerned with spending when they are not in power.

It's been that way for years.

[-] tmyakal@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

It's classic Two Santas from the Republicans again.

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[-] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well, he got half of his term playing golf. If he had been all day in office I am sure that he'd tanked it even more.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 23 points 10 months ago

What if I told you that people who vote for Trump aren't doing so for his fiscal policy? 🤔

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

I've watched interviews of MAGAts being asked what specific Trump policy made their lives better and their answers are always "the economy".

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

His policies were standard republican fare. The difference maker was covid.

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