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[-] ElGosso@hexbear.net 68 points 11 months ago
[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

These are your people libs

These feckless dicks who no longer even trot out something like 'immigrants built America', and instead nakedly, instantly agree to compromise with the party backing a guy who literally quotes Hitler

And they're 'compromising' so that they can send more guns to Ukrainian skinheads (and European black markets by proxy since they don't get tracked at all) and to Israel so they can ~~ethnically cleanse Palestinians~~ fight Hamas

They used to have a facade, they don't even bother any longer

Fuckin make that Schumer quote a site tagline

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 60 points 11 months ago

Republicans: they’re poisoning our white blood

Democrats: they’re poisoning our American blood

Totally different things but tankies will act as if they’re the same

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[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 60 points 11 months ago

2 parties with identical policies but one of them is openly racist while the other is kind of ashamed of appearing racist so it tries to conceal it in public.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

Listen, if one party is 100% Hitler and one is 99% Hitler, you're obliged to vote for 99% Hitler I don't make the rules

At least that's what some lib told me while they were busy helping clean their grandad's Nazi uniform

[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

this is just “hitler comparing Jewish people to rats is despicable but we do have a problem with Jewish economic control and the SPD knows we have to solve that problem, but in keeping w our principles”

[-] nightshade@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How do Democrats still not understand that giving concessions to the "merits" of fascist rhetoric (like they're doing with trans people as well) will never make people think you're more "reasonable", and will always further normalize hatred? Or do they understand it and that's exactly why they're doing it? They've done it so many times that it has to be a conscious decision at this point, right?

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

I think they're ultimately indifferent to the hatred, and just want the easiest way to maintain the status quo and their position within it.

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

Polite fascism vs crass vulgar fascism

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

because they're high on diet fascism

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

How do Democrats still not understand that giving concessions to the "merits" of fascist rhetoric (like they're doing with trans people as well) will never make people think you're more "reasonable", and will always further normalize hatred?

Because they agree with the fascists. The only thing they don't agree with is the rhetoric. They hate the aesthetics of the right, but they want the same things. Libs just feel guilty about it. Libs affectations and rhetoric is only about assuaging their guilt.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

That's about where I'm at.

Democrats have very thoroughly exhausted their benefit of the doubt. Maybe I just think too highly of them somehow but I don't believe they're really completely incapable of developing an electoral strategy with decades of real time feedback on what doesn't work.

At a certain point if somebody keeps jumping on the same rake in the same place everyday you start to realize they should be able to avoid that by now.

They'd rather lose appealing to moderates than let progressives into the same building as the levers of power.

[-] TupamarosShakur@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago

they're not poisoning the blood they're just invading our white nation

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago

Lmfao but we must vote for them or else the fascist wins!

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

VOTE FOR THE POLITE LEGAL FASCISM OR ELSE THE BOORISH AND RUDE FASCISM WILL WIN

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

maybe-later-kiddo: "As you can see, we have to give the GOP everything that they want or they will simply take it!"

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

I hate that this is literally true

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

"Boorish and rude (but also totally legal, weird how that works out) fascism"

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

This is offtopic, but the way that people whitewash the Weimar Republic by talking about Hitler like he was a wizard who cast a spell on Germany doesn't just have the effect of obscuring the political-economic conditions of fascism and its connection to long-standing European society, but further feeds into a fetishistic reverence for Hitler that encourages modern readers to hang off his every word to try to understand how the magic works, effectively working to spread his speeches even further than they would otherwise spread and lending a gravity to everything he says because, as far as many liberal histories were concerned, what he said was literally magic. It seems like a choice of characterization deliberately made so that the sins of the past can happen all the more easily for having already happened once, rather than protecting society from it using our past experience with it.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

the way that people whitewash the Weimar Republic by talking about Hitler like he was a wizard who cast a spell on Germany

Literally the plot of that flopped Harry Potter movie lol. This way of thinking obviously predates that, I think a lot of the bad WW2 pop-history is to blame.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

cast a spell on Germany... literally magic

In early 2017 I realized liberals and liberalism itself wasn't ever going to deal with the anger and frustration that gave rise to Trump. I knew in my bones that they were never going to consider why people like an out-of-work autoworker in a dying Rust Belt town would vote for Trump. The dems were just going to give speech after speech on themes like "This isn't who we are!" I have to admit I expected they would at least make passionate pleas and strident, forceful comments.

I wasn't clever enough to realize they'd be Schumer's level of bloodless and feckless before every election that this is the most important election of our lifetime. It's been almost seven years and there's been zero introspection by the dem machine. They're waiting and waiting and waiting for the public to snap out of their Trump spell and vote for democracy.

[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

Everyday I wake up and realize that we are going to go full fascist in America. Not with Trump but in 20-30 years we will be full-throated black-booted fascist and dipshit dems will mostly support it.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago

All liberals support fascism in some way

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The difference is between scratched and unscratched, which isn’t much at all.

[-] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

full-throated black-booted fascism is already here, just not evenly distributed. And it'll stay unevenly distributed even after you're enveloped in it

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

I don't when/how it will happen but I do know the dems will be flummoxed that nobody wanted FascismLite.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Arguing in committees about how the skulls on the Brownshirts' uniforms are a bit too overt

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

Way out in 20-30 years? I love me me an optimist.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

I mean, it's going to get worse, but we're already there.

Look at the laws and the crackdowns on people who protested police murdering black people. Or look at the recent ongoing blackballing of everyone they can touch who supports Palestinians.

The only thing left that makes us all feel like we aren't living in a fascist state is that we have "free speech" to openly criticize, verbally, the government and officials, but you can NEVER act on that criticism. And honestly that may remain forever (hard to tell) because it's a very useful control mechanism. Liberals LOVE peaceful protests and typing essays on Twitter, but if you go out and (I do not condone!) firebomb or break into an arms manufacturers' warehouse, then, "holy shit shoot to kill! GODDAMN TANKIES!"

To liberals, words are the ultimate tool. Actions, material conditions, etc. none of that shit matters. You just gotta "own the Orange Man" and then he will be defeated and we can move on to doing literally everything he was doing anyway but nicely or never spoken about at all. Status Quo Joe is their savior. Genocide Joe. Jim Crow Joe. He's just the same, and in many ways worse than, Trump.

[-] RION@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

Okay they're not poisoning the blood, but they're souring the lymph at the very least. In some cases even intoxicating the piss

[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

edit: sorry, replied to the wrong comment

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

I can't decide if this bile is diluted, polluted, or fouled.

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Guess it's time to see if the leeches help

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's a notable reply. Sweet mother of God - this is the longest single tweet I've ever seen.

It's ~3,330 words - Nitter

[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

holy shit, the absolute state of “microblogging”

i was curious and found that the character limit for twitter blue is 25,000 characters. for reddit-logo its 40,000

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[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

Again proving this comparison correct: Make Fascism Great Again vs Build Back Fascism Better

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago
[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

Its funny that Trump is still the president

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago

He's been living rent free in liberals' brains since 2015.

He's literally out there quoting Hitler basically, talking about eugenics basically, talking about blood and soil. (the democrats! They don't like it, folks! They don't want me saying these things. But it's true! It's true.)

And the like 4th or 5th most powerful or highest ranked Democrat, the fucking senate majority leader, who is also Jewish, is out there like "ok, guys. Yes yes he's quoting Hitler. But look! Remember. Hitler hated Jews ok? It had nothing to do with communists or trade unionists and definitely not Mexicans or Palestinians! Hitler and the Nazis were Hamas. Don't forget that! Definitely not Israel and absolutely not the US!"

I really enjoy getting to live through the timeline of "what if the Nazis came along and no legitimate leftist movement existed to defeat it or even "justify" their right wing delusions? No force to check them. No real enemy for them to aim to defeat. Anyone left of Himmler is deemed a "marxist communist fascist" (Trump keeps saying all those together 🤦‍♂️ Stephen Miller is definitely still writing for him)"

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

What's Biden supposed to do??? He's only the president! You expect him to have the kind of power an ex-prsident has?? smuglord

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

This is the most...I just...

...

Cold hatred.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"Also it just outrageous and he's doing it for political gain,” Sen Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, the first and only Latina senator, told The Independent, noting how Mr Trump’s own family includes immigrants. But when asked about negotiating on immigration, she dodged.

“I think it is important that we have Ukraine funding, Israel funding all of the above, and it needs to happen,” she told me.

:blm-bomber:

Sen Mark Kelly of Arizona, who won a full term in the Senate last year in a closely-watched race, told The Independent Mr Trump’s words were “a racist and xenophobic thing to say.” But when asked about the negotiations, he said the Senate needed to pass an immigration plan that could pass both chambers.

We're in a timeline where the overt fascist party is being lead by one of the dumbest mouthbreathers to ever walk this planet, and the 'opposition' party is just agreeing with his intentions (if not his words) wholeheartedly, Israel and Ukraine just being convenient cover for that.

Liberals should want to fedposting their representative's offices, but all they're gonna do is make some calls, write some letters, and tut-tut each other at brunch

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What I would give for a jouranlist group to dig into all our current and recent past meddling in South and Central America, and who is funding and cordinating these massive migration chains. How much does our sanctions and meddling effect the conditions of the people living in these nations. Who exactly are the ones giving the orders? After all you had Musk blurt the quiet part out loud once "We will coup whoever we want!". These questions are ones the media dares not touch or if they do, are actively sensored.

They are root cause topics you never hear from congress critters mouths. It's always militaristic boondoggle response to the symptoms of our shitfuckery rather than stopping the shitfuckery.

I'm just fucking tired of them using immigration and multiculturalism as some dog whistle. All my life they've been using it and it's just gotten old. I want them to admit to their mass murdering crimes for wall street that ruin these people's lives.

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

The media isn’t afraid of those topics. They don’t think about them just like the average American doesn’t.

The ones who think about this stuff never get promoted.

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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

You gotta vote for the democrats that constantly vocally say they agree with Trump or else Trump might win.

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

There's money to be made in the border crossing game. It's never going to go away like all other illegal things.

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