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Was reminded how Epstien not killing himself was/is so accepted yet it’s still a conspiracy theory. Is there any similar ones you guys believe to be completely true ?

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[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 129 points 1 year ago

Industries are making bad products on purpose to weed out consumers with standards, therefore breeding a crop of consumers that exist only to give their money to them if they ask.

[-] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

That is exactly why Shein and Temu exist as far as I can tell.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

That’s just unregulated capitalism.

[-] lotanis@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

This is like the physical product version of the Nigerian prince scam - have something so shit that the only people who engage with you are idiots.

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can you clarify a bit?

Do you mean that they are trying to identify, corral, and market heavily to these low-standards consumers so as not to waste their time with the rest (analogous to email scams)?

Or more that they are progressively beating down our collective level of standard so as to make the cheap crap more broadly palatable?

I don't necessarily disagree with either, but they are pretty different, so just curious which direction you are going.

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[-] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 101 points 1 year ago

MLK was killed by the US Government/with Government warning and approval not because of his policies on race, but because his message was getting (though somewhat always had been) socialist/anti-capitalist, and between the historic fear of slave revolts, the new fear of communist revolutions, and the monied business interests not wanting to cede any power they ended MLK to prevent potential calls for a social revolution.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 54 points 1 year ago

It's insane how many left leaning leaders were assassinated. And it isn't a coincidence that it was during the red scare. What we KNOW about McCarthyism is crazy enough, now think of all the stuff they wouldn't say out loud to fight the "red menace."

[-] Alto@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

J Edgar Hoover wanted to round up all the "leftists" and put them in camps.

I put quotes around leftist because simply not hating black people was enough to get you on that list.

[-] Rilichu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People are so unaware how common politically motivated murder was in the late 19th/early 20th century in the US. Our country is rittled with shallow graves belonging to labor and civil rights activists. Wikipedia for example has a list documenting anti-labor murders totaling just over 1100 that we know of. Much of that violence was especially targeted towards black labor organizers.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

In both the BLM movement and OWS, leaders and organizers were still meeting untimely deaths and I don't think the clandestine agencies of government have changed enough, (or at all), to rule them out.

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[-] sadreality@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Also tupac and biggie got removed becuase they spoke about things elites didnt like to be replaced by the prosperity rap clowns to worship them and their money to the plebs.

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[-] Alto@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

That ones not really a conspiracy. We know the FBI did it.

People just don't care, which is the most fucked up part

[-] Domriso@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

That doesn't make it not a conspiracy, it makes it not a conspiracy theory. Instead, it is a factual conspiracy that is just not well known.

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[-] AmbroisindeMontaigu@kbin.social 95 points 1 year ago

Just the boring one: That all the exciting conspiracies (and other stuff like "culture wars") are there to distract from the banal reality of most people and the world being exploited by a few selfish assholes.

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[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

I believe that Russia has dirt on a number of prominent Republicans. Trump is a given, what with his shady Russian financing, his connection to Epstein, the tape mentioned in the Steele dossier. But I think that there were a number of anti-Trumpers who turned on a dime. Lindsey Graham, for example, was very anti Trump for months and then became his biggest cheerleader literally overnight.

I think Russia had planned to damage Hillary in 2016, but never imagined that their man Trump would actually beat her. I think when they realized they had their man in the white house, they went all in, and used every bit of leverage they had to help him gain control of the party.

[-] Cheesus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

For Trump it's not so much dirt but he got a lot funding after he was a disgraced business man in the 90s that hasn't been sourced. I always thought he got it from Russia leading towards his allegiance to them.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This really isn't a conspiracy, it's pretty much just fact. The Mueller report was damning in showing the trump Russia connection. If we had sane bribery laws and a doj willing to prosecute it'd be a slam dunk. (Our bribery laws practically require an elected official while exercising their elected power to say "I'm doing this because of a sweet bribe". Nothing less qualifies). Literally half of it was dedicated to Trump Russian connections.

The Senate intelligence report on Russian election interference confirmed the Mueller report, that the Russians were working to get trump into office.

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[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 1 year ago

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is ultimately responsible for 1999 bombings, if you count is as a conspiracy theory that is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

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[-] Today@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago

We're really hot right now because the earth is trying to kill us. It got a taste of peace during COVID and wants more.

[-] jwagner7813@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I agree with the first point. Using our human bodies as an example when we get infected. It gets really warm. It's usually a technique used to kill bacteria among other defenses.

I don't personally believe it's some kind of "I got my peace for a brief moment and want more" thing. I just believe that we ramped up production after the COVID "recovery" period and we went back to business as usual at a rapid rate.

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[-] MonkRome@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

I don't even think it matters whether or not Epstein killed himself. Because even if he did, there was too much incentive for those in power to build in the conditions to make it easy enough to happen. IRCC, he was on suicide watch. There had to be intentional negligence to allow the suicide to occur and it seems unlikely that no one attempted to tip the scale in favor of allowing it to happen.

[-] Lakija@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I agree! I keep saying the same thing. I think he was allowed to kill himself. They put him on suicide watch as a suggestion to him. That way their hands are washed of him by his own hand.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

All that Q shit is real. There’s a pizza shop basement somewhere in the DC area where republicans are raping kids & doing all that other weird shit.

[-] n0m4n@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Except the pizza shop is a church.

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[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

Every accusation a projection, but fuck that's dark and specific.

[-] extant@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Why would they go there when they can get delivery?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 1 year ago

It's not delivery it's d'neighborskid.

I'll leave now.

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[-] arefx@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

At first I thought you meant you are a Q supporter than I realized you're saying every accusation is an addition of guilt.

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[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago

John McAfee is still alive

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[-] talkingcat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

It actually was a weather balloon

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[-] Soulgiver@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

That our entire existence and the world we live in -our so called reality- is being manipulated in every corner. Whether its historical, economical, entertainment wise, food, you name it.

[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That honestly sounds like clinical paranoid delusions. I have a couple of bipolar friends who think this way.

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[-] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I believe the NRA is involved in money laundering for the Russian mob and Trump ran for office to do the same thing, launder money through donations and by paying for advertising for donations with dirty money and getting clean clean donations back.

[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe the military is covering up something about UAPs. I doubt it's aliens but they know or should know more than they admit.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

It's always just US spy craft, foreign spy craft, foreign craft of unknown purpose, weather balloons, weird atmospheric shit. Also: instrumentation fucking up/data corrupting. When you combine the instrumentation with any of the former, it doubles it.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I think it's bogus and they're using it to distract from something else, just like they used the culture war

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[-] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US actually makes terrorists, and by extension refugees. If 9/11 wasn't directly an inside job they probably let it happen or created the motive for the people involved.

Australia found an SAS soldier guilty of war crimes and were on video perpetuating a really nasty culture that almost certainly creates martyrs and needlessly extended our time in Afghanistan.

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[-] peyotecosmico@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

A small part of me (not fully) thinks that COVID was a biological weapon that got out of hand from some pseudo dictator, there's too many of them and they aren't that bright/care to measure the consequences.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Came from a lab? Possible. But it doesn't really have the hallmarks of a bioweapon. It spreads way too rapidly. There's no functional antidote/vaccine/treatment. There's no preventives. It mutates waaaay too quickly. All things that remove control from the users. If you're going to bio-bomb a population, you definitely don't want major blowback.

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