Sovereign Citizens are crazy. Who thinks they can live in our society, use the things our taxes built, steal from companies, not follow the rules and laws our society made and just say they are special and get to do it. These people want to be leeches. How about pay your taxes, pay for products and services you use, follow the laws and join the society. We all must live together and there are rules.
This is basically the core of Republican ideology. Living off of the benefits of society while claiming to be 100% self made and then destroying the underpinning of that social fabric because it “isn’t needed”.
I mean, you're also describing the ultra wealthy
They are a bit different, the rich found out how to be leeches while still following the law (or making it seem like they do) whereas these guys are more like both leeching and shouting out loud that they are leeching
On another note it's kind of nearly impossible to really at all decouple yourself from society. Even as a literal homeless person who is denied every single benefit of society you're subject to the poaching by tax agencies (I've been there. Imagine building up radio tax debt when you are literally live on the streets).
so now I’m thinking what is the point
congrats, you’re getting there
So this person thinks they found a loophole to steal gas and power, and all they have to do is an "I said so" spell, but that the people they're stealing from can't and won't just "I said so" spell right back? "How can I get these people and the cops to stop caring about my theft attempts?"
Special words. Yup, basically the whole principle behind the sovcit movement.
I would argue that the real special words behind the sov cits are "I'll just need your credit card number."
And cargo cults.
"You're a sovereign citizen, Harry"
I like how they have a guy who changes the meters.
Imagine what that guy is like!
Rich
And laughing
keep the sovcits coming, those are always funny as hell
I have endless sovcit content. Endless.
Thats both great and fucking terrifying
I feel like if you're gonna go this hard on being a sovereign citizen, you might as well start actually learning and practicing law
This person didn't learn anything from Native American vs European Settlers history.
I'd hate to live next to someone this deranged fucking with gas infrastructure.
"The cavalry were not interested in anything I had to say about access to our land"
Sounds like going Solar would actually be a smart option for this person. Not that it isn't smart for anyone.
Some states still require you to be on the grid, and pay a connection/distribution fee, even if you are providing more energy than you're using.
When I was looking into installing solar when I lived in New Jersey, they said we weren't allowed to have a home battery system to store the solar power, either, due to the potential danger of utility workers on downed lines from unexpected loads (somebody should introduce New Jersey to the magic of diodes).
somebody should introduce New Jersey to the magic of diodes
That's not how that works, there's not really any way to ensure one way flow with an AC system.
Fair enough, good point.
But there are plenty of failsafe options that could secure power from the house if no power is coming to the house.
Definitely, you can get changeover switches that will isolate you from the grid so you can run a generator etc.
It's actually straightforward to ensure "one way" flow of power. That's what "islanding" circuits do. They isolate your home when the public utility lines go down by triggering a device that is essentially an electrically controlled switch. It's a unit that connects between your home and the utility company so you can continue to use your solar power/batteries when the public utility is out. If you don't have islanding, the solar inverter cuts off the panels when utilities go down. Both protect workers from encountering lines energized by homes.
Oh but that would cost money to install. Why do that when you can just steal and spew some nonsense about "private" property.
Does anyone know what they're changing the meter to? That's a risky/difficult process, isn't it?
This sounds very British so it is almost certainly a "smart meter" that E.ON are installing (which transmits usage data, and can be cut off or set to pre-pay remotely)
Canadian too, well at least British Columbia. There was a big drive a few years back to modernize the meters and some of what I suspect are the types that became 5G kills you groups fought long and hard to block these new meters being swapped in.
Something about radio waves and then not being accurate. I don't think these people in this group were trying to steal hydro but more on some health grounds kick to block these new devices from being deployed. I think individual home owners can refuse the new meters much like people can refuse spraying on their road side properties.
In the end as a business person I suspect they served a few purposes for real time accuracy of data collection on the status of demand and the health of the grid, and eliminating the need to send out meter readers to manually read a odometer on a old style mechanical meter.
Unlike others I don't think they were in the Bill Gates lane of trying to microchip you with vaccines to control you and identify a person as well as your cellphone does.
About the blocking attempts reagarding accuracy; here in the Netherlands the older analog meters could only measure real power. The reasoning is that the new smart meters don't do this, but instead measure in another way, causing consumers to also pay for reactive power. In reality, this isn't true, but the urban legend is strong.
It is not risky or difficult if you know what you are doing. So given the state of this guys outlook on the world, yes it is very much risky and difficult.
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