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[-] nekandro@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago

"Electoral interference" is illegal, but "shaping and changing the PRC" is just business.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah because you outsourced the crap out of them and then acted surprised when they leveraged that economic power.

On the other hand, China is also probably the one country where they successfully kept the CIA out. Can't coup your way out of this one.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 30 points 8 months ago

Imagine if US spent all that effort changing itself and improving the lives of the people living in US. Maybe it could be half as good a country to live in as China today. 😂

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But why would it do that, that'd be silly. The system is working fantastically for those who run it

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

indeed it is, rich people are making money hand over fist

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago

That's a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie for you.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

If the US had embraced FDR's vision of democratic socialism instead of letting Capitalists be unfettered Capitalist, I think we would have more people be way better off then China today since we wouldn't have out-sourced anything to China to begin with (Unions and DemSocs wouldn't have allowed the outsourcing.)

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Thing is that US did embrace FDR's vision and then capitalists dismantled it. As long as the country is ruled by capitalists then socialism is never going to be a long term option. You might get brief periods of sanity, but people at the top will work hard to revert these gains back.

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[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A nation of 330 million cannot control a nation that has 1 billion more people. Nations should also be free to choose their own destiny. A logical fallacy many in the West fall for is assuming the rest of the world wants to be like them and should be like them. If I have a 3000 or 4000 year-old civilization why should I take marching orders from a baby state that’s not even 300 years old like the US?

[-] FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

You don't need to invoke irrelevant arguments like the age of the civilization. Today's China is nothing like the China of 3000 years ago.

The US and the collective West should just look at its past and its actions to realize it's not a good model.

It's even truer today with its support of Israel. It's not in a good position to give anyone lessons about anything.

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[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

The British Empire and basically the world was controlled by a single city of ~1million. And besides the historical and current examples of smaller cities controlling much more land and people then they had themselves, the statement doesn't make sense. Why can't a nation of 330 million control a nation of 331million?

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

Those days are long past and were a historical anomaly. We live in a world where Afghanistan defeated the US-led coalition forces.

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[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 11 points 8 months ago

"... holding in one’s head multiple truths at the same time and working iteratively to reconcile them."

That sounds really hard, have you tried cognitive dissonance?

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