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Every liberal does it too, from center right radlibs to far-right "conservatives": the most extreme right fringe liberals hate the mainstream liberals for not being bigoted enough, the mainstream libs hate the radlibs for not being cruel enough, and the radlibs hate the left for not being chauvinist enough.

Denouncing chauvinism in particular is like a liberal moral event horizon, a cardinal sin against their self-interested belief in the righteousness of the imperial hegemon that keeps the treats flowing at gunpoint.

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[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

I thought it was because, despite wanting things like universal healthcare and welfare supports, they don't want to let go of capitalism. I'm not from here, and not all the way to where you are, but that's my outside view.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

That's fairly inside view actually, I don't think most people one'd describe as "not all the way where we are" are that aware

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[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

for any lib lurkers, i recommend reading liberalism: a counter-history by domenico losurdo

In this definitive historical investigation, Italian author and philosopher Domenico Losurdo argues that from the outset liberalism, as a philosophical position and ideology, has been bound up with the most illiberal of policies: slavery, colonialism, genocide, racism and snobbery.

Narrating an intellectual history running from the eighteenth through to the twentieth centuries, Losurdo examines the thought of preeminent liberal writers such as Locke, Burke, Tocqueville, Constant, Bentham, and Sieyès, revealing the inner contradictions of an intellectual position that has exercised a formative influence on today’s politics. Among the dominant strains of liberalism, he discerns the counter-currents of more radical positions, lost in the constitution of the modern world order.

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[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Look, if they thought our politics were better, they'd agree with us. So it's something else.

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[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

ok we show up

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