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[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 18 points 8 months ago

Given that Russian doctrine is all about disinformation and deflection, is he actually worth listening to until there is something on the table?

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, Oncophage has been on the table for 16 years, I think it it was the world's first oncovaccine.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1098972/000117184311003742/newsrelease.htm

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's a good stance to take with all "scientific breakthrough" articles. Poopsci is notorious for overhyping and just flat out misrepresentation. It's where the notorious "10 more years until fusion" meme came from. The actual engineers working on the project weren't the ones saying that.

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[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago

There is never going to be a "cancer vaccine". Cancer isn't a single disease, it is more like a whole category. It is like claiming you are going to develop a vaccine against any and all respiratory diseases or against all kinds of heart problems.

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Cuba has vaccines for different cancers already

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago
[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

Yes, but it is also not going to be a whole set of vaccines against all kinds of cancers developed in secret and finished and released at the exact same time. That just doesn't make sense for a real set of vaccines, just for one that is invented for propaganda purposes.

[-] Alue42@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

The article says "for individual therapy", so Russia is likely working on the same personalized "vaccines" that other researchers have been working on for quite some time - ones that utilize the individual patient's immune system to attack the specific cancer. Not something that everyone would go out and get immunized against. This isn't mind-blowing, but if you were Putin wouldn't you want to put it some positive news right now too?

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

Google "mRNA cancer research"

We're much closer to a preventative measure than you realize.

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Putin says a lot of crazy shit

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

Cancer vaccines are already a thing lmao it's not that unusual

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[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago
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[-] butsbutts@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

does it involve falling out of a window

[-] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I wonder if mRNA vaccine treatment for cancer is what they are referencing.

From what I was able to understand (and maybe somebody can correct anything I've gotten wrong), the "vaccine" is tailored on a per-individual basis to target key protein markers of a petients particular cancer. This allows the body to identify and start to attack the cancer where previously the immune system would not be able to tell the difference between healthy and cancerous cells.

Ref: https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2022/mrna-vaccines-to-treat-cancer

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 8 months ago
[-] Truck_kun@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago

Created exclusively for and at the direction of someone who has cancer maybe?

"We're close, we promise, we don't want to fall out a window."

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 months ago

Great, I expect we'll see that any day now. /s

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

Cuba already has some vaccines for cancer, it's not impossible.

[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah and HPV vaccinations are older than those still.

But, I guess "some scientists have developed a vaccine to lower the risk of one specific cause of one specific type of cancer." is less attention grabbing than "X country has developed a cancer vaccine"

[-] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Given that there are several cancer vaccines currently in human trials, this is not surprising. Most are based in mRNA technology, like the COVID-19 vaccine. Basically, researchers identify the marker proteins of a specific cancer, then create an mRNA vaccine that sensitizes the immune system. Then the immune system attacks cells with that marker. Other advances are methods to take down the "shield" that cancer cells have that hides them from the immune system.

If a country chooses to ignore patents, they can copy the methods and produce their own vaccines with significantly less investment.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Is a cancer vaccine even possible as a concept? Would it even be classified as a vaccine since cancer isn't a virus?

Obviously creating preventative measures for cancer would be amazing but I figured that wasn't even a subject we were broaching since treating it is hard enough

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Is a cancer vaccine even possible as a concept?

Yes. A recently-found example of cancer resistance is wolves in Chernobyl.

Would it even be classified as a vaccine since cancer isn't a virus?

Yes, and some oncovaccines are already approved.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Yo that's dope af, thanks for the info

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

Cuba has had a lung cancer vaccine now for about a decade. The US is also testing mRNA cancer vaccines currently.

[-] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

I'm especially ignorant on cancer medicine, but I do know that Cuba has developed a vaccine that is supposed to prevent a type of lung cancer. My guess would be a similar sort of result here

[-] axont@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

There are some types of cancer vaccine, but from what I know they're usually given to people who already have cancer. A college classmate of mine told me he had a bladder cancer vaccine

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Would it even be classified as a vaccine since cancer isn’t a virus?

Increasingly everything injected gets called that in popular media, it seems.

The article says he didn't specify what kinds of cancer he's talking about, or any exact timeline. You might be able to prevent a cancer, but all cancers seems pretty impossible, short of hypothetical nanobots that turn you into a disease-immune superhuman.

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