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[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 90 points 2 years ago

I'm getting rather concerned about all these "nuclear war isn't that bad, actually" takes from libs

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 66 points 2 years ago

They can only ban so many Russian athletes from sporting events before their frustration overflows

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago

You mean you actually care about the world going up in an atomic hellstorm?

But what about freedom and liberty as held to my own strange and self-destructive definition? frothingfash

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

We had to irradiate the village in order to save it

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"TIL Nuclear Winter is almost impossible in modern times"

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago

almost impossible

hasan-ok-dude

prerequisite firestorms extremely unlikely

Lahaina survivors have entered the chat

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

This sort of nukable, mixed use urbanism is illegal to build in most US cities.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago

Why can't more people be like Philomena Cunk and cry just knowing that nuclear bombs are still a thing?

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[-] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

No amount of hubris is too much for our friends with lower yield ideologies.

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

lol I saw someone suggest nuclear war may only kill as few as 10,000 people. What??

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 57 points 2 years ago

"well, you see, 99.9% of Russia's nukes don't work,. of course all our nukes work, but we don't consider Russians to be 'people' so they aren't added to the count"

so-true

[-] MORTARS@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago

Have you considered the world deserves to die for not sufficiently supporting Ukraine in this time of need

[-] StolenStalin@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

Humbly requesting you add pronouns. I almost thought you were serious.

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[-] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Honest to god had a nuclear engineering chud argue to my face that China would lose a hot war to the US because “they don’t spend enough to keep their nukes working”. Literal nuclear grade copium. I laughed at him

[-] AbbysMuscles@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Reminds me of when my funny-clown-hammer - fan friend was enthusing about how American missile defense would protect us from incoming Russian ICBMs. He was saying this in the context of wishing we'd done a Highway of Death to Russian forces nearing Kiev and how we could've gotten away with it.

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

Come on, let's have a nuclear war. It's not that bad. It's just the immediate destruction of all major population centres of the developed world and fallout that will haunt survivors for generations. It's no big deal! Stop being such a chicken about it!

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[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

well fuck my ass and call me a rotiserrie, here i thought the one thing i'd be guaranteed in my nuclear apocalypse would be the end of global warming!

may as well throw all these missiles away if they can't even cool this place down a bit after killing 8 billion people

[-] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

The reality is: Nobody is sure, any nuclear bombing is species-wide suicide at worst, an insanely pointless gamble at best. The vague consensus seems to be it would take a maximum 100 warheads to irreversibly destroy ecology worldwide, some suggest it would only take a few modern warheads. I suggest we do all we can to not fucking find out.

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

urban planning

"Buh? why are you dismissing my Bookchin redditor friends as 'satanic holocaust PMC'? Actually urban planning is a respectable academic discipline"

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 31 points 2 years ago

I've studied nuclear weapons. I'm no physicist but I've read pretty extensively on the after-effects.

These people are fucking stupid

Do they address why they have smaller yields? Because targeting systems are much more advanced. That's it. That's the reason. It's like arguing it's better to be shot in the heart with a single round rather than blasted with buckshot in the center of the chest. You're still fucking dead.

[-] determinism2@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

I have a PhD in nuclear physics from a top 10 science guy university in the world, and I don't believe nuclear armageddon is a problem. And I'm also not interested in discussing it (just so that no one comes with bs talking points, I've seen enough). I'm just saying this so that you don't stumble on your own delusional bubble too much.

You don't believe in science. You believe in TV. You haven't read a single peer reviewed paper on the matter, let alone papers that have a different point of view. So spare me your condescending bullshit.

Now go ahead and downvote me so that you can sleep better at night after having excluded me, the infidel. Just remember that many people out there have degrees, educated and read 100 times on the matter than you and disagree with your delusions on the matter. Enjoy four faith in TV.

[-] NinjaGinga@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

Your posting power is unmatched, comrade.

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[-] RoabeArt@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People have to remember, it's not so much cities themselves that could be targets in a nuclear war. The first to go would likely be military bases, international airports and seaports (pretty much anything that can launch and support military equipment and personnel), and the hundreds of missile silos that dot Missouri and Montana.

Secondary targets would be industrial centers like steel mills and chemical plants, and railroad yards. Communication hubs and tech centers might be hit as well.

Most of these things just happen to be in major cities, but the cities themselves aren’t targets, and people living in suburban and rural areas aren’t necessarily safe.

(Of course, all this is based on outdated Cold War-era nuclear exchange theories that may or may not have changed. The communication hub thing for example: the Internet was originally created as a means of decentralizing communication in case of a nuclear attack. So take everything I said here with a grain of salt.)

[-] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago

See the problem is most east coast and a lot of West Coast cities have major military installations inside of them or very near them. Additionally, military targets are only the first wave of all out nuclear war, major civilian targets are chosen to weaken logistical networks and slow recovery. So if you live in a city with a large port, rail way, interstate, or airport. Than your probably fucked.

This is all part of unclassified plans from the cold war you can find on the Internet. There's a million YouTube videos about what an all out nuclear war would look like based off those documents. Given nuclear technology hasn't seen any major improvements sense these plans were written, it's probably safe to assume they're still mostly valid.

[-] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The two nuclear bombs dropped by the US on Japan were pointedly targeting mass civilian population centres, I don't think you can rely on them being targeted with any real strategic logic, they are the tools of the genocidal and the deranged.

he

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

B E T T E R City Planning?!!!!

jesse-wtf

[-] Sinonatrix@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Turns out stroad hell was a nuclear defense tactic all along

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[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Make these people' watch Thread because they seem to believe that not getting fried in the first strike is a win

They never know what it's like to dig trench with shovel to build ''bunker'' that are more like 1.5 meter deep trench to prep for an eventual nuclear war

[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

Their takeaway from Threads would be "look, there's still people in the end! it's not so bad!"

[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

reddit people believe they are strong enough to do hard labor and not minced by cannibalistic tribe due to food shortage is unironic main character symptom

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

Real death cult hours among the libs

[-] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago

Ahhh so that's what all the parking lots and highways are for.

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