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submitted 9 months ago by wombat@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

Been awhile since we've done this thread, and it's always fun. Here are some of my picks:

  • The Pursuit of Happyness (2006) is really bad. Will Smith's inspirational moment is going to the New York Stock Exchange and seeing all the happy rich guys in suits walking around, and wanting to be like them. Having to do stuff like brown-nose executives, sleep in train station bathrooms and pull his son out of daycare due to lack of money are presented not as flaws of the system but evidence of Smith's smart bootstraps-oriented thinking. This movie is the Mein Kampf of liberalism.

  • Air (2023) is really bad too. Literally a feature-length Nike commercial coupled with a fuckton of Michael Jordan worship, the message being that a bunch of rich guys deserved to get even richer because they signed a sneaker deal. The closing 5 minutes of the movie are a "where are they now" montage showing how much money all the Nike executives made, yay!

  • Anastasia (1997), which portrays the Russian Revolution as the result of a wizard's curse and communism as bad because it got in the way of the Romanovs living in big palaces and wearing fancy dresses.

  • The Post (2017), about a wealthy, heroic girlboss newspaper executive who makes the heroic decision to...uhh...not block the publication of a story that would expose the lies of a corrupt president threatening our democracy (take THAT drumpf)

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago
[-] Rom@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Frost/Nixon

As implied by the title, it attempts to further tarnish the reputation of Richard Nixon.

How dare they try to ruin Nixon's pristine reputation!

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[-] axont@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

i just got whiplash after reading an angry fascist nerd complaining about how The Emoji Movie is too woke to presumably the same nerd reviewing The End of Evangelion

there isn't even an explanation for why the End of Evangelion is liberal. It just says Shinji fails his boss and masturbates

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

There used to be an entry on there for American Psycho, saying that "despite" that title having American in it, it was anti-capitalist which is anti-american.

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[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

Moscow on the Hudson, where Robin Williams is a Soviet musican who defects to the US because he's so amazed by a NYC department store (he also befriends a friendly gusano lawyer)

[-] homhom9000@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

The hate you give(2018). The book wasn't radical or anything but the movie pretended everyone's protest against police violence is the same as protest against gangs, therefore getring rid of the one big bad guy gang leader is the same as justice.

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[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 9 months ago

Anything Snyder (low-hanging fruit)

Yeah yeah, you think a literal messias character doesn't have any obligations to save people, how impressive!

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

I just watched Master and Commander, because dudes somehow love that movie because it shows just us guys hanging out, doing stuff, and occasionally managing emotions in the most stilted fucking manner. I will never get over how the film is basically propaganda for the British navy and British imperial wars. They kept talking up Admiral Nelson so much that I thought it would lead up to something. Nah, his aristocratic and pro-slavery views were never discussed.

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nah, the British Navy is as relevant as ancient Rome as far as modern audiences goes.

Also I recommend Culture Why Are So Many Guys Obsessed With Master and Commander?

Will Menaker, the co-host of the popular leftist podcast Chapo Trap House, said, “I don't know how there could be ironic fans of a movie that's this brilliant—a movie that does onscreen everything movies promise. What's bad about this movie?”

“I always think of the scene where Aubrey and Maturin are playing their cello and violin—you're hearing that and it's just sort of taking you around the ship and it's all very quiet. And then there's just a moment where the camera goes underneath the boat and it's a shot of the anchor trailing through the ocean as you hear the slightly muffled sounds of Aubrey and Maturin's music,” he continued. “I just always am so struck by the beauty of that moment and the fact that every single conceivable detail about the social hierarchies and physical maintenance of this vessel is so lovingly crafted. It's the historical verisimilitude of it and just how it does a very rare thing for movies of this nature—it's like the battles are almost incidental.”

Sure, there are no female characters in the movie (except for the ship, and the wooden lady on the ship). But overall, the masculinity of Master and Commander, especially as modeled by Aubrey, is overwhelmingly wholesome and positive. Any nostalgia for the traditionalism in the movie is less reactionary and more about the healthy male bonding between the characters.

“You've got a bromance for the ages in Aubrey and Maturin,” Menaker said. “They're just fucking buds and they play their violins together as they're traversing the Cape of Horn. It's awesome.” Writer David Grossman told me that Master and Commander is “a deeply felt vision of non-toxic masculinity,” while Alex Yablon pointed to it as “a portrait of healthy homosociality.” Even director Taika Waititi once called it his favorite romance movie.

I don't mean as an appeal to authority lol fuck Chapo shit, but this article and the quotes are a Siberian winter level take on why the movie is actualy kind of good and I completely agree with all the points.

I can see why you may not like it since there are basicaly two audiences for this movie now. The original viewers mostly nostalgic and the whole early 2000s the end of the blockbuster era(LOTR, Gladiator, M&C etc) and the modern audience looking through all the context of modern society and what Hollywood has become. If you see yourself in the modern audience I guess yeah it probably isn't all that special or even relevant, specialy as a leftist even.

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[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Lol, my first thought was Pursuit Happyness too. I was subjected to it in school. This dude who is fulfilling the “American Dream” just got incredibly lucky despite stupid decisions. “Meritocracy” amiright? He was the top in all his classes and invested a huge amount in stupid machines. He ends up homeless because a bunch of terrible stuff happens but he’s able to pretend to be rich and try hard and solve a Rubik’s cube. Yay this one dude gets to be rich while the masses of poors he was briefly amongst continue to suffer. When I saw them in the streets my first thought was how they should be organizing, not begging for a bed. What an inspirational movie.

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Heavy Metal (1989)

All evil in the universe is the result of one green spirit demon fucking around for no reason, and the universe is ultimately saved by a dominatrix with a sword and a pterodactyl. Yeah, right.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Ready Player One is another huge Liberal brainworm

[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

You've Got Mail

[-] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago

I'll take this moment to shill:

Remove All American Media And Culture From Your Life

!noyank@lemmy.ml

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

The Muppets Take Manhatten

[-] Self_Hating_Moid@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

All movies are liberal bougie decadence

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

All ~~movies are~~ is liberal bougie decadence

FTFY

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[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sorry to Bother You (2018).

I know people want a good radical comedy, but that's not it. It's been a while so I can't remember everything about the film but there are some major points.

The protagonist gets wealthy by selling arms, then moves to an apartment in the sky where he essentially looks down on the people. At the end, he leaves it all behind because he realizes the fucked up nature of that life and moves back to his uncle's garage, but he kept some of furniture of the apartment and said something to the effect of like 'We're back to where we started but there's no reason we can't have some nice things.' These pieces testify as corpses of his class betrayal. He is, on the exterior, the garage which symbolizes working class politics and struggle, but within his garage, he has the desires and furnishings of one of the worst aspects of capitalism as his interiority awaiting a repetition. He never fully let go of, or totally rejected, the desired niceties—literal furnishings—of that lifestyle. The ideology lives on within him.

And the moment of Revolution, which brings the hope of the new world, is carried through by Capitalism's own dark creation. I think Riley wanted to show this classic idea, since Marx, that Capitalism has sown the seed of its own destruction. But this is not a protletarian revolution. It is a 'Equisapien' revolution. I think this shows Riley's pessimism that revolution is impossible. Humans are ready to betray their class and humanity as a whole for luxury and will never be the same, even if they have a moment of rectification, they will always remain stained and corrupted—the protagonist and the new garage. But these mutant, super-humans have the capacity because—I'm not entirely sure why anymore. The point being, humans are the ones who need to carry through an anti-capitalist Revoltion in real life and we need to do it by organizing with other fellow humans who have the revolutionary potential to see it through. We cannot wait for a literal new species/race to come into existence to save us from capitalism as a deus ex machina. This is almost a Communist's pseudo-superhero movie, with the super/antihero coming in when everything seems lost and saving the day. Just because it is some unattractive, monsterous creation of capitalism doesn't mean it necessarily has a different meaning from a typical superhero movie—don't worry, someone will come save you from yourself because you simply cannot do it yourself. Total lib fantasy where you still get to keep your ill-gotten treats.

I'll also mention this is totally on-brand for Boots Riley, the middle-class son of an attorney who wants to play at revolutionary but still keep his nice things that he's accustomed to having.

[-] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

So I agree with some of the points you're making, but wanted to point out.

I'll also mention this is totally on-brand for Boots Riley, the middle-class son of an attorney who wants to play at revolutionary but still keep his nice things that he's accustomed to having.

Riley's father was an attorney but from what I understand he mostly did probono work for left wing groups in Chicago, and from his account it sounds like he grew up lower middle class at best so I don't think this is a fair characterization.

Also I think some of the criticisms you're making stem more from the fact that Riley is really into absurdist allegory, sometimes more absurd than allegoric, his work can be said to be a bit symbolism over substance. I too felt a bit weird about the whole 'Equisapien' thing but I think he was trying to make a point about the commodification of labor, though I think it didn't quite work.

This is almost a Communist's pseudo-superhero movie, with the super/antihero coming in when everything seems lost and saving the day.

I'm curious if you've seen "I'm a Virgo", because while that show also has a lot of similar flaws to "Sorry to Bother You" it does address the whole "leftist superhero" thing.

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