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[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 134 points 8 months ago

I must admit, "Linux becomes the refuge of luddites" was never on any bingo card I could have conceived of for 202X.

[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 55 points 8 months ago

Huh? Isn't this about Microsoft changing out a button with a well established use, in order to take advantage of muscle memory and the unobservant?

Don't think it's much to do with people opposing technological advancement, but rather with opposing another company wanting to making a fool of them.

[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

More over being a luddite on Linux is like a fish trying to breathe in a public swimming pool; it works until the chlorine poisoning sets in.
Linux adopts new technology constantly.

[-] Hubi@feddit.de 53 points 8 months ago

The difference is that Linux generally adopts new technology because it enhances the user experience in some way, and not because it maximizes ad revenue and telemetry.

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[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

The Luddites of Linux are one's desperately trying to convince people that Xorg is perfectly flawless and that Wayland is vaporware.

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[-] Geek_King@lemmy.world 124 points 8 months ago

I noticed this bullshit a few days ago on my Win 11 desktop! I found if you go check the settings of the start bar, you can hide the copilot icon in the lower right, and then there's a check box to enable the lower right hand corner to work as show desktop again. The functionality can be restore to exactly as it was, but what the hell were they thinking.

Enshitification, plain and simple.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

I genuinely do not get the hype of integrating LLMs fucking everywhere. There are places it makes sense, like word processors and email clients. Then there are places it doesn't make sense, like as an aside in my desktop environment. No one's going to use it. It's Cortana all over again.

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[-] merdaverse@lemmy.world 95 points 8 months ago

Wow, Microsoft are always so innovative! I never thought that the Win11 taskbar could get any shittier, but somehow they managed it. It's great to see those thousands of engineers being put to good use.

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[-] Breve@pawb.social 94 points 8 months ago

Everyone: Don't say anything sensitive or personal to an AI because it could end up in training data!

Microsoft: We're making it easier to feed everything you do on your computer to an AI from notepad to your desktop!

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[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 70 points 8 months ago

I've been using Linux since Ubuntu was in the single digits. Looks like windows entering the double digits is finally the end. I thought win10 would be able to stay relatively unmolested, but nope, copilot button and bullshit right there in the bar. Why can't you just leave us the fuck alone. Your driving everyone away who doesn't have a professional obligation to use your OS. I'll still have to keep a old win10 boot drive that never connects to a network so I can play games and use CAD that Linux can't. As a KDE fanboi they've added pretty much everything I've always wished for and plasma 6 is launching.

Now is my time. Fuck you Microsoft. I won't miss you.

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

10+ years with Linux as my daily driver (yeah I'm old). When my os updates, it's almost always with some feature that's pretty neat.

Nowadays the steamdeck or some combo of Linux with steam can play my games, do my work, and I actively make other people's lives better when I contribute.

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[-] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago
[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 8 months ago

That's what made me refuse to use the Reddit official app before their API garbage. Every update was a gamble as to whether they'd try to make me spend money through muscle memory.

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[-] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago

Windows Key+D

Press it again to restore all apps to foreground.

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

What's the shortcut to remove the data-harvesting, power-sucking leech that is Copilot?

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[-] Defaced@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

Linux exists people, without copilot using your information for training data and if you game, has Valve releasing updates like crazy for proton making it easier and easier to use Linux for gaming. The only thing I use Windows for is GeForce now as the windows and Mac apps are the only way for me to play 1440p 120fps with their service.

Good beginner distros: pop_os, Ubuntu, Linux mint, Nobara or fedora, Garuda, Manjaro, solus, zorin. The possibilities are really endless. Just take your pick, make a bootable USB and try it out.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

has Valve releasing updates like crazy for proton making it easier and easier to use Linux for gaming.

It quite ridiculous how far it has come. I remember trying out ubuntu years ago and being incredibly disappointed with how few games were compatible. Nowadays I'm running a dual boot LMDE/Win 10. Probably 80% of my games work right out of the box, and the other 20% I can just switch over within a minute or so.

I am still a little disappointed at the lack of mod manager compatibility for some games, but it no longer feels like a deal breaker for me.

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[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

They're signaling that you don't need a desktop anymore, only chat bot. Your device will be a kiosk where you ask Microsoft for favours.

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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 50 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Switch to Linux!

As a Linux user myself, let me tell you that telling people what they should/must do this is how you make people plainly ignore you and think you're just an annoying person.

People will keep using what works for them, be it Windows/Linux/MacOS even if with minor inconveniences. Same goes for browsers/services/etc...

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 22 points 8 months ago

"Microsoft continually makes their OS worse, but every time they do, Linux users come into the comment section telling me I should switch, so I'm not going to."

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

People don't switch just because of some minor inconvenience (as if Linux didn't have any...) and outside of Lemmy/the Fediverse echo chamber very few people are concerned about privacy. They will switch (maybe) if the new tool works better for them than thge previous one. Otherwise, why should they bother? Linux is my primary OS since many years, but it isn't everybody's cup of tea.

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The thing is, is that it really doesn’t affect people in the way you guys seem to imagine.

I’ve used Linux, MacOS, and Windows. Currently use Windows for work as a C# . net, SQL / GraphQL, and React TypeScript developer and although I was shocked they’re all pro windows, coming from MacOS. Once you get used to it you don’t really notice the shit stuff as you just do what you’re doing.

I would still rate my experiences in this order though: MacOS, Linux, Windows. Best to worst, but like I said even though in now use the worst in my opinion it really doesn’t have much of an impact. Plus if I were to use Linux I’d need to geek out and waste so much time configuring it and I’m past that stage.

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[-] Kawi@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago

I'm so glad I switched to linux

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[-] Dr_Satan@lemm.ee 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Linux. You'll be glad you did.

Free. Easy to install. Never gets viruses. Never crashes. Rock solid.

Runs good on old machines. Runs like lightning on new machines.

I've installed it for 3 old ladies (3 separate installs). They like its simplicity and low-bullshit.

I personally use Debian with a Mate desktop.

[-] trailblazer911@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Never Crashes", "Runs like Lightning on new machines" Am I doing this wrong? I tried Ubuntu, Zorin OS, Linux Mint- I get crashes and errors which doesn't explain what the error is, instead shows some code lines. Runs like Lightning on new machines- In my 13600K build, Windows 11 feels noticeably faster, and I'm able to use all my onboard stuff like Optical Audio Out, WiFI 6 connects to 5GHz properly, unlike Linuxmint. I think I lack the technical expertise to run linux. I have been building PCs for like 20 years now.

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[-] ElcaineVolta@kbin.social 39 points 8 months ago

just switched to Linux for the first time this week!

[-] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

I'll happily help you if needed. Hmu.

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[-] Resol@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago
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[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 8 months ago

... You guys might shit on it, but that's incredibly smart on their part. Ten years or more of that button being there and now suddenly something else replaces it, just imagine the amount of people accidentally hitting the button and being introduced to copilot. This was a very deliberate change.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

It's Smart as in, MLM scheme smart. Not honorable, just smart. Like a thief that is clever about not leaving fingerprints.

[-] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 16 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure there's a term for it. Google did it with shopping and images, Instagram changed the home button with some advertising thing (dont remember the exact details).

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[-] Soggytoast@lemm.ee 31 points 8 months ago

Windows 11 offers nothing better than Windows 10, but there's a few key things that don't work as good/bugged on win11 for me. Should have not updated I think

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Clippy never really went away, he's just been evolving this whole time into something more and more annoying with each new iteration.

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[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Just once I would love to open one of these threads without seeing people shitting... on Linux.

Linux is not even the one doing anything wrong but people gotta rag on whoever recommends it as an alternative. This is getting more annoying than however annoying they say Linux users are.

edit: Just to make clear because some folks aren't getting it, this is not an invitation to argue about how you feel about Linux and Linux users. I. don't. fucking. care. I don't even use Linux. Take it to someone who cares.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 50 points 8 months ago
[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

tbf I get it. Sometimes you just want to be mad.

But like, it's Microsoft's fault.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 8 months ago

As is everyone taking every possible opportunity to mention Linux. It's not like we don't know it exists, we don't need constantly reminding that it's an option.

Although it isn't an option for a vast number of reasons, but mostly because corporate IT requires systems that run only on Windows. Therefore the only solution is Windows so the fact another operating system exists is utterly irrelevant and yet somehow you guys constantly keep mentioning it. Then we constantly have to point out that lots and lots of programs don't run on Linux and then you will inhibitively start going on about Wine. It's tiring. I would love it if we could have a conversation about Microsoft without having to pretend that other operating systems are viable alternatives.

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Win+d, I wasn't even aware there was an icon for it. If it's not the date, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or VPN, I'm all keys

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[-] vikingtons@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

can this be hidden via registry or group policy?

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago

You can hide it via normal settings.

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[-] MarcRnt@feddit.de 19 points 8 months ago

I've already switched to Linux partially. My PC now dual boots to Manjaro and Windows. I won't switch completely, but it's great to have such an awesome alternative right there one click of a button away. And the funny thing is that I'm not even the only one amongst my friends to do that. We are now three already and we even game on Linux too.

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[-] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 18 points 8 months ago

so.... where's the hide button?

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[-] cholesterol@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Is that a default-ish tray these days? It looks like a complete mess.

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[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 8 months ago

I can't run a lot of games with anti-cheat on Linux, so it's not viable for me.

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