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[-] aniki@lemm.ee 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I love to think that you'd need command override to turn off the Holodeck safety.

"Ensign Barclay is not in the sudoers file."

[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

It’s still baffling to me why there is even an unsafe mode in the first place. What could that possibly be used for?

On a related note: why is the holodeck door so hard to open when the computer is on the fritz/taken over? Surely this isn’t such a high security room that they couldn’t just leave the door with a manual latch?

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Useful for killing borg with a Tommy gun

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

One potential use would be for surgeries, like if your real person doctor was incompacitated or had to poop or something, just send the patients over to the holodeck when Barclay isn't visiting his harem or Worf isn't fighting against opponents that must be set to very easy considering how well he does when facing actual enemies (unless they are Klingon).

When you think of it, holograms would make great doctors. No shaky hands, if they need help they can just spawn more doctors or even copies of themselves that could act as if they have one mind. No captain falling in love with them (assuming Barclay doesn't get promoted to captain) or them falling in love with crew members. No drama or complaints about being overworked or anything like that. Sure, you could program a holographic doctor to do any of that, but why would anyone want to?

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The doctor in voyager is holographic, he says much the same about being amazing. :) The sickbay in voyager is equipped with holo emitters, and he’s an emergency medical hologram who outgrows his programming much like Data.

But his matrix is too large for the ship to manage multiple copies of his program, or something.. or maybe just the sickbay computers.. either way, they could probably easily generate drones to do specific tasks with high precision. Also has the perk of choosing his own density, so they use him for security threats a lot. Also can’t get sick.

Tho he does have interpersonal relationships with his crew mates and thus drama, so that’s not actually a point in hologram favor ;)

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Lol yeah, I was being a bit cheeky about The Doctor and included some stuff that should have been true but went directly against how it worked out in Voyager. :)

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

Oh, heh, my bad. There’s a lot of people who don’t seem to watch/like voyager, so wasn’t sure if you’d seen it. Very convincing. 10/10.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah I don't get it since Voyager is my favorite one, though it is pretty close and I haven't yet seen any more recent than Enterprise (other than some of the movies) and haven't finished my DS9 watch-through.

[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Voyager certainly has some great bits in it, but for me I think it's just that TNG is quintessential Star Trek and DS9 does something very different pretty well. Voyager doesn't feel like it has enough of a distinct voice to differentiate it from comparisons to TNG.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I think what sets it apart for me is that it isn't as heavy with the Starfleet authority structure. And I can't think of any recurring annoying characters (like Troy's mother, who could read minds but still stomped all over everyone's boundaries). Voyager is Star Trek but without Starfleet and with less political stuff.

I think that's what I liked about Enterprise, too. Both of them are more... wild and unknown.

[-] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

My guess is it is for better simulations.

I would think the safety protocols would make for an unrealistic simulation. Maybe changing gravity if someone fell of slowing down objects like a bullet to a gun. Or changing a knife somehow so it isn't deadly. They never really explained it as far as I can tell.

But probably doesn't matter most if the time.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Was it not remarked in TNG that they sometimes have it turned off in simulations?

Regardless, IMO only the captain and maybe some other senior staff should be able to do it, IMO.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -4 points 8 months ago

Probably for unforeseen situations. Remember you can make whatever you want, it's probably possible to create a program that abuses the safety protocols to create a trap or something.

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 10 points 8 months ago

"This incident will be reported."

[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I think any officer is likely able to override holodeck safeties. The enlisted probably no (though we barely see any). The civilians and guests on the ship shouldn't for sure.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago
[-] wjrii@kbin.social 12 points 8 months ago

Unexpected Shakespeare. Nice.

And yummy.

[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

I'm guessing it's a Westworld reference as this Shakespeare quote is used throughout the first season.

[-] Ultragramps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

‘These violent delights have violent ends‘ is a quote from Shakespeare’s Romeo & Juliet, spoken by Friar Lawrence in a conversation with Romeo in act 2, scene 6.

NoSweatShakespeare link

I feel like a bot with this response.

[-] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago
[-] wjrii@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

Ahh, got it. Never got very deep into Westworld.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 4 points 8 months ago

Actually it's both!

When I was trying to think up a suitable title, Billy Shakes was the first thing that came to mind as I am a fan of the Bard. Then I remembered its use in 'Westworld' and that cemented my decision as it seemed appropriate, given the content of the image.

[-] DerpyPlayz18@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

The enrichment center reminds you that the nuggies cannot speak

[-] Batman@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Computer give them nugget trachea, mouths, and a story to tell!

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 1 points 8 months ago

Except that last one. I think it was about to say "I love you."

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

No, everyone knows the holodeck is only for reenacting old detective stories!

[-] ChillDude69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago

in the butt

[-] crusty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago
[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

Like the guillotine, my sense of radical mercy started with understanding that you decapitate the dinosaur nugget swiftly. Pain isn't the punishment.

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