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Yuzu agrees to pay Nintendo $2.4 million and will entirely shut down (www.gamingonlinux.com)

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[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 155 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Reminder that poor Gary Bowser was jailed for a year and owes 30% of his income to Nintendo for the rest of his life. He uses a wheelchair and has two kids.

It would be morally wrong to pirate all future Nintendo titles and pay the cover price to Gary's gofundme. Please don't do that.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 20 points 6 months ago

Please don't conflate an open effort to own your own hardware and data with a closed effort to literally sell access to copyrighted content under the table, and try to launder the profits and commit fraud. Yuzu and Bowser are not the same.

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[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 12 points 6 months ago

Does 30% of the gofundme go to nintendo?

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 19 points 6 months ago

Google says yes

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[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 144 points 6 months ago

Nintendo screwed big time. Now there's going to be multiple forks of Yuzu all over the internet. And on every self-hosted Git forge.

[-] Lucid5603@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 6 months ago

Already mirrored on my personal forge

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[-] bilb@lem.monster 37 points 6 months ago

The bigger deal is that development by this team has been halted, not that it will be a little harder to find a trustworthy download of the most recent version.

[-] nailoC5@lemy.lol 20 points 6 months ago

Yep. This is more to stop the emulation of their next console than anything else. Especially considering it's likely to be a just slightly better Switch.

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[-] Painfinity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago

6o3ssq

[-] PlexSheep@feddit.de 17 points 6 months ago

I tried to fork but couldn't find a repo to clone. Do you have a link?

[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 27 points 6 months ago

It's all over Codeberg. And within a few hours or days, I guess it will reach NotABug too.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 88 points 6 months ago

fuck Nintendo, I'll never support them or buy anything related to them ever again.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 60 points 6 months ago

I feel like the people saying this now aren't going to follow through and will buy future Nintendo products. If this behavior was a deal breaker for you then you would already be boycotting Nintendo.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 18 points 6 months ago

Well, given that the last game I officially bought by Nintendo was Metroid Prime Dread (because I really really want that franchise to regain its former glory, same with F-Zero) and that also after a year or so of not buying anything new. Yeah I was kinda in a soft boycott already.

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Last thing i bought was BoTW. Guess whos playing ToTK on their linux pc.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 months ago

So in other words you were already boycotting them, and nothing has changed due to this lawsuit.

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

We'll now im actively pirating. I haven't had much time for their IP before.

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[-] zwerdlds@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Is this... surprising behavior on Nintendo's part?

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 16 points 6 months ago

No, and it's still disgusting. They are fricking bullies.

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[-] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 76 points 6 months ago

The publicity inspired me to install it, so great job Nintendo.

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[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 71 points 6 months ago

It is always morally correct to pirate nintendo products.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 51 points 6 months ago

Where does a FOSS project find $2.4M? They weren't selling anything were they? They can't really have that big of a war chest can they?

[-] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 42 points 6 months ago

They don't have it. It's a limited liability company so in this way they will pay only the sum of their assets (=bankruptcy) which is lower than legal expenses against a Goliath and definitely lower than 2.4 million. I'm guessing 1000x lower than the settled amount or they wouldn't have reason to found the LLC in first place or to settle this easy and this fast

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[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 months ago

My understanding is they've been making 30k a month from their Patreon.

Which is also the main reason they were vulnerable to a lawsuit, because they've been profiting off of the emulator (which why legal by itself, is only popular enough to make money due to piracy).

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago

$2.4M is 8 years' worth in that case, assuming they were making that much the entire time. And of course a lot of that money was probably for the devs to afford basic living expenses.

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[-] mudle@lemmy.ml 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As of right now, both Citra and Yuzu are available via Flathub!!! Get them now if you don't have it!!!

[-] hakase@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago

How do I turn off Yuzu's auto-update? I don't want my computer to connect to a website that Nintendo now owns every time I boot up the emulator.

[-] mudle@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago

You should be fine. Yuzu checks the Github repo for updates which is now down. If you're still worried you could download it via Flathub and disable network access via Flatseal or terminal.

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[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

I have the opposite question. How do I make sure that Nintendo knows every time I run yuzu?

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[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 6 months ago

Holy shit this thing smells so bad. The announcement reads like "Nintendo's legal team wrote this in exchange for 1 mill smaller settlement"

[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 44 points 6 months ago

Emulator devs should rly do their best to be anonymous

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 22 points 6 months ago

This shouldn't need to be the case; emulation is legal and has been tried by the courts in several jurisdictions.

Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use, so the legality of emulation isn't really "enough" in the face of even rudimentary protections.

The nice thing about loving on a global society is that this can still be legally pursued elsewhere and we can all benefit. (Or coordinated/shared on the dark web, which can be untraceable even for those living in justifications where it might be illegal.)

In this case, they'll be fine. They made a LLC and didn't take any personal liability in the settlement. They can just declare bankruptcy and fold.

[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 15 points 6 months ago

Emulation may be legal on paper, but in the end, we are rarely ever a match for such massive corporations, and a legal system that lets them get away with outspending you on legal fees.

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[-] d_k_bo@feddit.de 40 points 6 months ago

Fuck Nintendo. All my homies hate Nintendo.

[-] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 32 points 6 months ago

Reminder that paying Nintendo money is morally wrong and should be avoided when possible. Buy the consoles, sure, but pirate if you have to play the games.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The consoles are the fucking things I don't want to buy... I'm sick of Nintendo and their "buy my console or fuck you" motto...

I haven't bought an Xbox since the 360 and haven't bought a PlayStation since PS4 because I'm so sick of dropping hundreds of dollars on a console for one or two games since the parent companies are assholes and won't have the games ported to PC. At least Sony and Microsoft got the message that you can have your console and sell the games on PC

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

The Switch runs even first party Nintendo games like dogshit on top of all that. People will say it's the developer's fault, to which I say Nintendo owns the fucking developer so it's still their fault.

Also, Nintendo is the only console company that doesn't port to PC. The fuck are all the annoying anti-Epic Store bros when it comes time to yell at Nintendo?

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago

I agree to never give Nintendo my money again, I hope they also shut down someday.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

They're shutting down the website too :( I really liked the in depth update logs. Yuzu (the website, emulator, android app) felt so extraordinarily polished for an emulator too. Shame Nintendo

[-] passepartout@feddit.de 17 points 6 months ago

That escalated quickly.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

What happened to the lawsuit that said that emulation is legal?

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago

Should've done a GoFundMe or something to fight Nintendo, I would've funded that...

[-] 0x0@social.rocketsfall.net 11 points 6 months ago

They must know they fucked up somewhere and decided to go this route rather than get exposed for potential shenanigans. From reading comments in other communities I was surprised to see a lot of people expected this outcome, although nobody was particularly specific about why (maybe someone here can give some insight.) For the record I've been on team "Fuck Nintendo" after the Gamecube, but I'd take the fact that other emulators haven't been targeted as possible hint that Nintendo got wind of something wacky going on. Who knows, maybe they're next?

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They ran a LLC company and earned a quite substantial amount of money with Yuzu. I also suspect that they don't actually plan to pay much of this fine and just let the LLC go bankrupt.

[-] 0x0@social.rocketsfall.net 10 points 6 months ago

Financially the right move. If what I read was correct, it would take approx. 8 years of steady Patreon income to get to the $2.4M figure anyway.

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