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[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 164 points 11 months ago

By doing this they have effectively secured their survival. We will never stop growing them.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately.

I hate mint, it's been put into WAY too much damn stuff, and is 98% of toothpaste flavors. It took me way to long to find a toothpaste that was JUST cinnamon not "Cinnamon-mint" or "minty cinnamon" or "Cinnamon with a BLAST of mint" just plain cinnamon.

[-] skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 11 months ago

i don't hate mint but i really want to try cinnamon toothpaste now

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

It's called CloseUp, I've found it in most US grocery stores although it's usually shoved to the bottom shelf

[-] skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 months ago

Thanks! I'll see if I can find it

[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Tigers love pepper. They hate cinnamon.

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[-] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I love mint, but cinnamon toothpaste is absolutely god-tier.

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[-] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Me, too. I haaaaaate mint toothpaste.

Just discovered coconut ginger toothpaste a little over a year ago. I'm sticking with this toothpaste for life.

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[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

The other thing their evolution has done is make it so we can't stop it growing lol. Never ever plant that stuff in anything but a container. Maybe not even that. It spreads by wind and magic.

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[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 136 points 11 months ago

Mint, peppers, and caffeine, the holy trinity of "plant defenses that did not work on humans."

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 96 points 11 months ago

Counterpoint; those plants are now cultivated in huge numbers, thus ensuring the successful and continued propogation of their genetic legacies.

From an evolutionary perspective, those defences worked too well.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Literally no quality will guarantee a species survival in the modern world more than being delicious to humans.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 14 points 11 months ago

But I bet we have vastly reduced their generic diversity so if humans disappear they will have more issues to survive without us.

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[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 72 points 11 months ago

On the other hand, being useful to humans have made them some of the most widespread and successful plant species on the planet.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Being useful to humans is the single most important factor in evolutionary success rates.

Sure, there's 8 billion of us, but we collectively KILL ~~30 billion~~ 70. 70 goddamn billion chickens every year, and there's always more of those fuckers. We kill more than double the number of chickens every year than are ever currently even alive. That's how many chickens there are.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Grass: is useless

Humans: "Growing a nutritionally useless plant demonstrates that Im so wealthy I can afford to waste arable land"

Grass: is now one of the dominant species on earth

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We made grains from grass. If you let most grasses get tall enough to seed, they look like green wheat.

Also I'm not certain, but wheat and corn may give grass a run for their money in acreage cover, if you count the wheat and corn as a single species, but count each specific grass separately.

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

Lol pls.

That's the r-rated version.

The true trinity is nicotine, cocaine and opiates.

And also,

"Animals are something invented by plants to move seeds around. An extremely yang solution to a peculiar problem which they faced."

— Terence McKenna

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[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 38 points 11 months ago

Particularly peppers lol.

Ah, mild pain! The perfect addition to my diet.

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[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Cilantro: best I can do is 20%.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Hallucinogens, nicotine, caffeine, all evolved for plant defense and all of them are used recreationally.

[-] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago
[-] cynar@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

THC is a heat shock defence. The fact it has such an effect on us is purely coincidental.

[-] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Yes, that is one of the possible explanations for trichomes. However, In literature there are several potential reasons for cannabis producing THC listed, some of them are:

-deterring certain insect and other herbivores -Anti-microbial effects -UV light protection

Claiming that heat shock defense is the only reason seems like a simplification, considering that scientists are still researching the matter.

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[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 82 points 11 months ago

"Can you make me spicy as fuck so no creatures want to eat me?"

"OK bruv flawless plan."

[-] raydenuni@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 11 months ago

Still a good joke as we're mammals, but peppers's spice is so that birds, and not mammals, eat their seeds and poop them out far away as birds aren't bothered by capsaicin.

[-] Ferris@infosec.pub 10 points 11 months ago

lending purpose to an evolutionary trait is a mistake. It is possibly that mechanism by which they attained some degree of success, but evolution doesn't 'think' unless youre into predeterminism like that.

[-] raydenuni@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Totally. Perhaps a better way to phrase it would be, the successful result of the adaptation was that birds spread their seeds instead of mammals. Until us.

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[-] lauha@lemmy.one 65 points 11 months ago

In fact, humans started cultivating mint and chili, hence it worked

[-] axsyse@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 11 months ago

There are billions of cows, chickens, etc. in the world. Purely by numbers, those species are incredibly successful. Yet, If not for humans finding them tasty and easy to manage, we would not have bred them to this degree and they wouldn't have reached this degree of success. Somehow, against all odds, being tasty/something we want to eat has somehow become an incredibly valuable and successful adaptation.

Evolution is absolutely wild, and this really drives home the fact that evolution isn't about the individual's likelihood of survival, but their likelihood of reproduction.

[-] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Depends on how you define success. If you look purely at population numbers, yes. However, if you look at how they live in industrial animal mass production facilities, no.

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[-] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Well, now it has. But uhhh, rest in pieces to all those species that were tasty ,but too much of a hassle

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[-] marcos@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

A highly adaptative strategy. The plan failed very successfully.

[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"But little did nature know that man loves to SUFFER"

[-] mihnt@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago
[-] robocall@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

You got some explaining to do!

[-] mihnt@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Shhhh. It's ok. You have fresh breath now.

[-] skylestia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 months ago

why does it feel like i can breath better while chewing very minty gum? i mean i assume it's just an illusion but i've always wondered

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Menthol increases your mouth's sensitivity to coldness. The air you breathe in is generally cooler than your mouth, so the air moving by as you breathe is much more noticeable.

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[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

It may be some or other thing with your nose. For instance runny nose after eating spicy food is a known atypical reaction and happens a lot with people with deformed nose wall

[-] Ferris@infosec.pub 5 points 11 months ago

affecting 80% of people

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[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago

I swear I’ve seen this image before but without the laugh track at the bottom, and the bottom-left panel only had the top line. Brevity is etc etc

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

The Life Cycle of Memes. I'm sourcing some of these from the bottom of the troth.

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

MOUTH COOL!

MOUTH COOL!

[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

I guess it still works on me. that taste makes me wanna puke.

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