When the revolution comes we need to unify tools

Hammer? Screwdriver? Spanner? One of these should be enough

All these cutting edge new languages are just wrappers around the same C libraries some anonymous grad students wrote in the 70s funded by some tiny government grants.

part of project 2025 is making javascript the only programming language

Rust

Wish granted, Brainfuck

Can we ban all tools that aren't hammers while we are here?

After the revolution we should just unify english. Theres so many spoken languages around.

Language design and theory has made some legitimate gains over the past couple decades. And different languages have different strengths suited for different problems. I think the issue is that even people who agree with this aren’t gonna agree on the language to standardize on. It’s the XKCD comic.

there are 28 coding languages

"We need to invent a universal language that brings all these together so everybody can just use one"

there are 29 coding languages

And then we can use our unified programming language to write a program so tall it breaches Heaven itself

Yeah I program in WebAssembly, what about it?

learn more languages - it makes the code you write more effective on the human level. like learning Haskell taught me how to conceive of ideas that you would just solve by duplicating code or building a shitty interface that falls apart when you need to combine it with anything else. code is math and code is a means by which you communicate with other people. and you need to learn to express yourself in more ways in order to come to a deeper understanding of both of those facets.

I don't want fewer languages. I want more diversity and more experimentation. I'd love to see more domain-specialized languages that borrow ideas from the more academic languages and refine them. look at Elm and how much ground it broke - so much so that it's impacted how new javascript UI frameworks are designed. but Elm couldn't exist without languages like Haskell and Ocaml. and those couldn't exist without ML, Miranda, etc, etc.

putting limits on human creativity defeats the entire purpose of the left. we dream of being unshackled, of the genuine freedom that can only come from the defeat of capitalism and the dawn of a new, socialist political economy. perhaps if one day I write a better Lean, it will inspire someone to write a web language that brings proofs into the developers' lexicon and we will all have less shitty, poorly conceived, brittle code to maintain. and maybe you'll inspire me with a great idea of your own.

I like Guile with its compiler tower. You can use multiple languages on the same VM, even using libraries from one language on another, which is fucking cool. The core language for Guile is Scheme, and it supports standards from R4RS-R7RS, along with plenty of built-in SRFIs, some implemented out-of-tree and many of its own Guile-specific extensions.

For the compiler tower, so far we've got the aforementioned ballin' Scheme implementation, Emacs Lisp, an unfinished JavaScript implementation that doesn't even fully implement ES3, Brainfuck, Python, wonky Lua, and Guile-specific Clojure. Hopefully there's more to come and there's some I missed.

While the main purpose for the compiler tower is to lower a language into the IR (Tree-IL) (although you can lower a language into another language too, which then itself can be lowered into IR), which gets lowered to more verbose IR (CPS), then bytecode - we can also raise IR through decompilation. For example, Guile-JavaScript compiles Scheme to IR, then decompiles the IR and raises it to JavaScript.

Then there's also Guile Hoot, which I believe lowers the IR into WASM. In theory, when its complete, the above languages could work with Hoot and he compiled to Hoot, but I'm not entirely sure on this.

Terrible take tbh

You can pry Julia out of my cold dead hands but if you make me work with other people in it I'll start sobbing

Yeah literally mostly all I want is a better C with less weird quirks and undefined behavior, may as well drop null-terminated strings except for compatibility too, maybe some kind of memory-safety mechanism too, ooh also better support for multi-dimensional arrays

Rust was kinda like that until it became the better C++

Maybe in 10 years someone will be designing a better Rust because they made the same mistakes of C++ and forced so much shit into it it's extremely difficult to write any new, better implementations and port to new systems

Rust

Banning programming languages seems like a bad idea to me, humanity has come to regret all that language standardization and cultural genocide that happened with the imposition of one universal linguistic language. My official (so the communist position) on programming languages is let a thousand alternates to C+ bloom, then crush them all under the jackboot of the communist party. THEY WILL ALL BE THE LANGUAGE OF COMMUNISM!

In my communist future it's all Torqur3D, Python, and BASIC. No, I do not know any of those.

I'm only familiar with Python...