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Hamas tells negotiators it doesn’t have 40 Israeli hostages needed for first round of ceasefire | CNN (www.cnn.com)

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 72 points 6 months ago

Article is way better than the headline...

The framework that has been laid out by negotiators says that during a first six-week pause in the fighting, Hamas should release 40 of the remaining hostages, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men. In exchange, hundreds of Palestinian prisoners would be released from Israeli prisons.

Hamas has told international mediators – which include Qatar and Egypt - it does not have 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release, both sources said.

CNN’s record of the conditions of the hostages also suggests there are fewer than 40 living hostages who meet the proposed criteria.

Hamas just hasn't been taking civilian noncombatants as hostages like Israel has been doing.

Most hostages are combatants, and that doesn't meet the details for this requirement

The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

You mean Israel went into negotiations making unreasonable demands? Like almost every other time?

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Oh come on. What kind of "return elderly people, pregnant women and other feeble hostages" is unreasonable demand? What would be reasonable demand? Keep them forever. Abuse them?

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[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

What are the demands of each side? Can we lay them out and compare? Or do we know already that Hamas demands are reasonable? Do we always have to take sides? I personally want what's best for the Palestinian people so I want a ceasefire and return to negotiations. But this partisan flailing isn't helping the cause. Unless of course we're ok sacrificing more Palestinians? I don't get it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Do sides have to be taken in a negotiation?

I would say yes. That's the whole point of a negotiation.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Should we grant:

A. Both sides be reasonable?
B. Only Israel should be reasonable?
C. Only Hamas should be reasonable?
D. None of the above.

I just don't understand why you're calling out only one party?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Because one party is demanding something the other party says it doesn't have.

[-] Zomg@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Problem I think is why they don't have them now if they had them at some point.

Unless they never had them to begin with; having people and now no longer having them points to killing them which, surprise, hurts negotiation.

Who knows though, Israel might of taken them for innocent Palestinians and did it to themselves :(

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Theyre dead, Jim

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