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[-] Florn@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

Yes (based)

[-] gramxi@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Yes but he looked really cute in that dress

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

He really did!

fucking jealous is what i am smdh wish i could pull it off that well trans-sad

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

is looking really cute in a dress stealing valor?

[-] jaywalker@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Fox News about to run a story on this

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

Does Cloud park in the reserved for veterans parking space?

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 7 months ago

Cid held on to the handicapped parking pass after Cloud's time in the wheelchair so he parks the Highwind wherever he wants. It's ethically questionable but there doesn't seem to be a lot of other airship traffic or competition for parking spaces so it's a moot point

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

I somehow Mandela Effected myself into thinking that the car from FF8 was in FF7 for a hot second lol

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Understandable.

In the original at the end of disc 1 you have the stolen Shinra pickup truck minigame after you escape the Shinra building, before the boss on the highway. Then you have the goofy red buggy for a relatively short time on the world map which you forget about as soon as you get your hands on the tiny bronco.

At least that buggy doesn't have a fuel requirement. Idk who designed the economy in FF8 around hiring a car and needing to pay huge sums to run the damn thing and I'm conflicted about it because as game design it was pretty poor but as anti-car, pro-rail supremacy agitprop it's pretty great.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Then you have the goofy red buggy for a relatively short time on the world map which you forget about as soon as you get your hands on the tiny bronco.

Damn, I totally forgot about that thing

as anti-car, pro-rail supremacy agitprop it's pretty great.

Plus, the Forest Owls have a train base. thonk

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

FF8 made you pay for your train tickets too, but it also paid you a salary based on how long you played the game which you could increase by taking tests at the academy. I feel like they were trying to give an impression of a modern economy but the idea was only half-baked.

[-] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

If it was cheap and reliable then people would be like "Why isn't there roads and cars fuggin' everywhere in this gameworld". Making it prohibitively expensive and a pain in the ass helps you believe why the human settlements aren't as interconnected as they would be in a futuristic fantasy world like that I guess

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

i can't imagine shinra vets get any benefits, and also cloud is a veteran so if he did that's still not stolen valor. the real tricky part of this is the claim of being a soldier first class, which wasn't true but he DID kinda fuse with one and also he very much killed sephiroth that one time

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

Probably different answers for different "versions" of Cloud, too: Disc 1 Merc Cloud, After the 💔🤺 Cloud, Wheelchair Cloud, End of the Game "Let's Mosey" Cloud

[-] buh@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

Yes and its a good thing

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

He did some identity fraud for sure

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

is it identity fraud if you genuinely have part of that guys brain in your brain? also i'm not actually sure he did, iirc he was claiming to be cloud strife the whole time

[-] BioWarfarePosadist@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Was it part of his brain or did he just absorb Zach's memories from the life stream as well as Zach's fashion sense?

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

are memories not part of the brain? certainly they're close enough for a response to a shitpost

[-] BioWarfarePosadist@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

Oh, do we want to get into the epistemology of memories? I love doing that! Are memories a part of a brain? Do they physically reshape our brains to store them better? Is memory simply data that can be placed into any brain?

nerd

I'm half joking half serious.

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

nodding thoughtfully. i think it isn't identity fraud if you have the other guys memories because you remember doing all that stuff and also aren't claiming to be the guy, just someone with mostly your own past who is very similar to him

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Not just his memories. His sword as well.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

Mmm. Yes, you've raised interesting and thought-provoking epistemological questions to critique the physicalist concept of memory connected to a simplistic positivist worldview. Very well done.

But, have you considered, PISS? smuglord

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

memories are stored in the balls

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

They are called materia

[-] BioWarfarePosadist@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

HOW DID I NEVER CONSIDER PISS!? negative

[-] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

I was going to say that it's not really a fashion sense so much as a uniform but I don't know if all those gears, cogs, screws, and bangles and shit are standard issue thonk SOLDIERs seemed to have the freedom to use custom equipment the higher their rank was

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

It's weird because he called himself Cloud but the way he acted and dressed and fought were all copied from Zack

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

yeah but like, that isn't identity theft, you know? cloud is just kind of a poser and doesn't realize it

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

He almost fooled Aerith too

[-] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

Gaslighting yourself so hard you trick the one person who should know you're lying

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Haven't played the game in ages, but didn't Zack and Cloud's mako mingle? And then Aerith could sense that with her ancient powers or something? Maybe I'm hallucinating plot points

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

I've never played it at all. Does mako mingling mean sex?

[-] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago
[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

no, they got mad magicscience done to them and their souls got kinda mixed up

[-] abc@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

as a soldier first class, yes, but unfortunately he still receives the Shinra military discount at the Midgar Costco due to his service in the infantry...

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Nah, he could do a back-flip with a sixty pound sword in scene one. That is already so far into the realm of superhuman that he gets a pass. For context in the real world an unreasonably giant sword is 12 pounds. His sword is ast least five times that. Probably more actually. And he can do one handed flourishes with it. That is above Olympian level strength and control. So that goes a long way to establishing he is a super soldier.

[-] jaywalker@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Maybe they are on a low gravity planet

[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It was more like he lied on his resume by pretending to have been a higher rank than he actually was.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

I don't know, but FF7 stole FF6's valor

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

nah, they're different. kafka isn't that good a villain anyways, sephiroth is better because he's lame as hell

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Everything FF7 does well, FF6 did better, including villains

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

i really don't think so. this isn't nostalgia or anything, i didn't play either until i was an adult. if nothing else midgar is a way better opening to the game than ff6's, that's something i won't budge on

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Okay, fair. That FF7 opening was solid.

But I think the sound samples in FF7 were inferior to SNES MIDI at the time, the polygon graphics were still in a baby state that didn't hold up as well as late 16bit spritework, and the 4-member parties opened up a bit of flexibility in playstyle.

Also, the minigames in FF6 were integrated so well into the main gameplay loop (aside from a few POV sequences that never really worked).

The story was a bit more cohesive too. With FF7, the story kinda falls apart after the loss of Aeris. FF6 took this portion (in the World of Ruin) to allow you to pursue character arcs to their endpoints but FF7 doesn't handle itself well one the rails are off.

To me, ff7 was a remarkable achievement in the advancement of next-gen RPG development, and probably the peak of the golden age in terms of cultural impact, but it was a bridge between eras rather than peak final fantasy

[-] Cromalin@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

i don't have strong opinions on the sound samples, and i do mostly prefer the sprites. but those prerendered backgrounds are gorgeous, i really love them

and i like the ff7 minigames about as much as the ff6 ones, though i totally get where you're coming from

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Stumbled on this just a minute ago.

Here are a pair of FF7 songs in an SNES soundfont compared to PS original:

Dear to the heart:
SNES:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jNSrHgimnOc
Original PSX: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ixw3nFcQkzI

The high-pitched vibes that kick in are the most glaring issue with the FF7 version. They're piercing and out of balance.

Tifa's Theme:
SNES:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dMaYB3vDKB0
Original PSX:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dMaYB3vDKB0&t=153s

This one actually might sound better on PSX at first, but then the melody kicks in and the flute sounds cheap and robotic in the original.

The original compositions were classic Uematsu approaching his absolute peak, but the PSX soundfont overall feels clipped and has cloying overtones.

I wish I could say I like the Remake versions better, but IMO Hamauzu does too much. Here's that version if you care to hear it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=seewVC9uwr4&pp=ygULdGlmYXMgdGhlbWU%3D

Granted, that game has a different vibe, so maybe it fits there, but the mood in this cover feels hopeful and revelatory, whereas the Uematsu arrangement is lonely and bittersweet. Hamauzu uas always been better with atmospheric soundtracks as opposed to thematic ones.

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