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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

2024 is shaping up to be the year of travel reprieves.

Hot on the heels of the European Union postponing (again) its much-mooted ETIAS program, which will require visitors from most non-EU countries to obtain pre-travel clearance, Brazil has pushed back the start of its new visa system for travelers from the US, Canada and Australia.

However, if 2024 is the year of the reprieve, 2025 is when everything will hit home. And for travelers from those three countries heading to Brazil, it’ll hit home, hit their bank balances – and require them to share their bank statements, too.

ETIAS is slated to start in 2025 and Brazil has now confirmed a start date for its visa program.

From April 10, 2025, citizens from Australia, Canada and the US will need a visa to enter the country. On the plus side, those traveling for tourism or cruise travel can apply for an evisa online, rather than visiting a consulate.

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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 32 points 7 months ago

Meanwhile, this is just a normal day for travelers from developing countries trying to visit first world countries.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Except PITA for brazilians to go to the US, not only we need to pay to make it we also need to present a bunch of documents, fill a ton of online questionnaires, wait in long ass lines and then hand over our passport to a foreign government for like a month just to get a tourist visa, which doesn't guarantee entry since the border agent can't just say fuck you and make you fly back (happened to my cousin).

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

Well... I'm never visiting Brazil, apparently.

[-] Gordito@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

The USA requires much more of Brazilians visiting the US. This is simple reciprocity.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

These types of rules are typically to deter people trying to immigrate illegally. I know that's a hotbutton issue in the US, but does Brazil have to deal with a lot of people from the US, Canada, and Australia trying to illegally immigrate? Or is this purely out of spite because those countries treat Brazilians that way?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

Yeah, countries often do reciprocal requirements to discourage either side from implementing them.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That's not really my doing, dude. I don't have a say in it. Maybe neither country should make it hard for people to go for a vacation there?

[-] Veraxus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I understand the reciprocity.

Thing is, this was not okay when the US did it and it’s still not okay. Shame to see other countries learning the wrong lessons from the US’s mistakes.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 7 months ago

I don't know about visitors, but I think that a number of countries require you to show that you can financially support yourself if you're in the country for the long run and not working.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

In the long run, maybe. But this is for travelers, not residents.

[-] Steve@communick.news 5 points 7 months ago

But most people trying to illegally immigrate come in on a travel visa, and then they just don't leave. It's the easiest way.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago
[-] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Good. It's called reciprocity...

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

And that's the only reason why it's being done.

[-] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Does the Brazilian government have tight enough control over agents not to abuse this? I'm imagining how much easier it would be to identify ransom targets coming from abroad if a rogue agent was affiliated with a criminal organization.

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago

Rich people don't have all their assets sitting as cash in a current account.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

I’m pretty sure that’s the goal

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

Oh be careful, your xenophobia is showing.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

By criticizing the xenophobia of the Brazilian government?

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Explain to me how reciprocating how Brazilian are treated by other nations is xenophobia? Because that's what's happening here.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It’s not okay when other nations do it either.

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

My guy, I called you out on assuming the information would be used to extort people. Now you are moving the goal post so you don't have to feel bad about yourself, instead of doing that, reflect on the fact that you don't want to be that person and like everyone else you made a mistake and allow yourself to learn from it.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

I haven't wanted to visit Brazil since a homestay student told us that pretty much everyone ends up becoming a rape victim before adulthood. I never bothered to confirm that because I wasn't about to challenge the words of a rape victim and eventually never thought about Brazil again apart from one time giant Jesus statue came up in a conversation.

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago

I also base my opinion 215 million people on the perception of one person.

[-] pfjarschel@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I am sorry about this student and what happened to them, but that's not true. The crime though (mostly mugging and pickpocketing), especially in Rio and São Paulo cities, is something to be concerned about.

Source: I am brazilian.

this post was submitted on 12 Apr 2024
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