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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 year ago

I'm paid to be a software developer, but my real passion is to be a bisexual communist game developer and writer. But i'm not good at the bisexual, communist, game developer, or writer thing.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 13 points 1 year ago

Everyone is good at writing.

You might just not be popular in your lifetime.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 26 points 1 year ago

Oh honey, no. Go read some middle school creative writing.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 17 points 1 year ago

Philisitine, that is creation at its most raw and untamed

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's always funny when liberals come from Reddit because the profit motive slowly ruined everything that once made Reddit fun and disruptive, but then absolutelty mald about Marxists and other leftists once they get here, the explicitly leftist answer to Reddit.

It's especially bad on !Lemmy.world, where the majority of users are too idealistic to stay on Reddit but not well-versed enough in leftist theory or practice to actually engage with most of Lemmy.

It's even goofier when these same liberals think they are leftists, but then still get upset at Marxists, and even Anarchists.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and even Anarchists.

I have lost count of the number of times I have been called a tankie by libs lol

I am an anarchist, but I work with a decolonial Marxist org and I have read plenty of ML theory and know who my comrades are.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

It's pure idealism and vibes, theory is scary and anything beyond the liberal echo chamber is MAGA and Russian propaganda.

The good news is that the turbo liberalism drives the more well-meaning liberals leftward in search of actual theory.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

They're afraid to read Lenin because they know they might agree with him.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was called a "fascist" for saying that Lenin was a Marxist. Not even for suggesting to read Lenin! Marx is whatever they want him to be, Lenin is whatever they want him to be (nevermind Lenin's deep respect for Kropotkin), ideas shape reality.

It's all Idealism.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

nevermind Lenin's deep respect for Kropotkin

THEY LITERALLY NAMED A FUCKIN TRAIN STATION AFTER HIM

And not just any train station

Kropotkinskaya was therefore designed to be the largest and grandest station on the first line.

I think something both the Vaushites and PatSocs have in common is viewing things in a vacuum like liberals do, they try to carve up ideologies like football teams and insist that you cannot be an anarchist if you don't swallow NATO propaganda, or that you can't be a socialist if you acknowledge the unique struggles of LGBTQ people or colonized people in the US for example.

Meanwhile historically the lines are a lot fuzzier and both groups have aligned and clashed in various ways over a whole century.

We also do not need to keep rehashing hundred year old ideological beefs when we can simply examine the causes of those divides and also the points of agreement and learn from past mistakes. This should be something all contemporary communists of any tendency should agree on.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Yep, it's 100% vibes based and excessively frustrating to deal with. You don't even have to support the USSR or anything, just please be historically and politically consistent!

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I have critical support for the USSR because they were clearly a net good and their existence gave leverage and power to workers' movements in the US because they were terrified of us doing our own october revolution. It is glaringly obvious that the existence of the communist bloc held at bay the unrestrained voracious maw of capital because we can see what happened in the years since its (illegal) dissolution.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Sure, I largely agree. I don't believe the USSR was perfect, but I see it as invaluable to seeing how a large-scale socialist project can actually work, and what parts didn't. Regardless of tendency, it's one of the best examples of Socialism at work, period, for good or ill.

[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Ok, that's a new one. Calling you a fascist for saying Lenin was a Marxist...

I can usually take these liberal takes in stride, but this is like they invented some new kind of weapon. I feel this weird itch to engage with them somehow, and that's not healthy.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

It's a genuine drain trying to feed Lemmy.world's radlibs with any theory of any kind. Usually I try to avoid saying scary words and they will ultimately agree with the logic and analysis, which gives me hope that some can be convinced to actually educate themselves on leftism, but there's such a strong anticommunist slant on Lemmy.world that it's usually met with absurd claims with no basis in reality. Just knee-jerk vibes.

[-] sturlabragason@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Congratulations, you’ve described me perfectly! 🥲 (except for the anarchist part, cought up with that about 6 mon ago)

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you want to get into Marxism (even if it's just to learn about what people are actually talking about), Principles of Communism by Engels and How Marxism Works by Chris Harman are fantastic pamphlets that really take no time to read through, though beware, Harman is a Trotskyist and that bleeds through a bit in his writing.

Marx mostly spoke about Capitalism and while no Marxist can avoid reading Marx, he doesn't provide a great introduction to Socialism in the Marxist sense, if that makes sense. Still, Value, Price, and Profit and Wage Labor and Capital are fantastic intros to the critique of Capitalism.

Even if you're interested in learning about Marxism-Leninism, jumping straight to Lenin before even understanding Marxism would be a mistake. Lenin builds his own critique off of Marxism, as a Marxist, so it is preferable to go through Marx first.

[-] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

The amount of comments I've seen start with "I'm as left as they come" instant eye roll

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

"I'm as left as they come! I also agree with US foreign policy, and think that every country on the official US sanctions and foreign adversary list needs to be overthrown."

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

"Redfash" or "horseshoe theory" is usually another giveaway. MAGA Communism and PatSocs certainly exist, but not in any serious number, and they aren't here on the mainstream Lemmy communities.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I’m as left as they come, and anyone to the left of me is a MAGA troll.

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[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world really can be maddening sometimes. It seems like any vaguely political post develops some intense strawman "tankie" action. I've pointed it out a few times and it doesn't go well.

They think everyone to their left is a tankie and everyone to their right is maga and they alone posses the singular correct opinion.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

It's even worse sometimes, they think the left is a portal that is actually secretly MAGA. It's what happens when your political opinions are purely vibes based and not founded on any material analysis or reality.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Same here. It's always Lemmy.world and their echo chamber. They are especially idealistic liberals, they can't stay on Reddit but they also can't stand leftists, everything is vibes and nothing is material.

They, right now, are comparing Marxists to Evangelical Christians and are circlejerking about it, lol.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

They, right now, are comparing Marxists to Evangelical Christians and are circlejerking about it, lol.

In what way are they comparing the two? Doing a comparison of Marxists against Evangelical Christians could be valid depending on the context of the comparison. Marx had a bit to say on religion's role in the class struggle.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Here is the post in question.

The crux of the argument is that both Marxism and Christianity see problems in the world, and both Marxists and Christians see a future event "fixing" these problems, and finally that people who don't agree with these takes are uneducated, equating immaterial religious fervor with historical materialism and class struggle.

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[-] Reznik@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

Post communism? whats that? As far as I understand it communism should be at the end of cultural and social development. What should be after that?

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 1 year ago

I'd argue that it is not possible to have an end. Culture and society, like species, continue to evolve and is never a static thing (believing otherwise is one of the big contradictions of neolibs and other staunch pro-capital ideologies). So, "post-communism" could be a set of philosophies that may not be concievable until such point that humanity has evolved culturally and socially enough. Possibly influenced by technological or external factors.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Actual sound answer and not a shitpost. Good comment.

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The nature of the dialectic is for it to continually and fluidly evolve, every now and then contradictions mount to a point of qualitative change and give rise to a new system that resolves the contradictions of the last, but gains new ones. It never ends. Marx only said, capitalism will bring about socialism, which will in turn bring about communism. Everything after that is too far away to really make any concrete statement that isn't grossly biased by the conditions of our time.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Fully autumated luxury space gay communism, comrade

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If you aren't joking, they mean 'to post the propaganda on the Internet' and not post-communist.

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[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You can have a proper gander at deez nutz bruv.

i like asking other people to tell me what i do, because i do whatever the fuck i please. And am beholden to no labels.

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