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yea

I did not expect this this post of mine to attract as many people minimising SA as it did. Bit of a downer, yeah.

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[-] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 63 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

For the past few weeks there have been multiple people on here really showing their asses by upvoting or commenting outright incel shit on various posts. This has convinced me that Hexbear needs another fucking purge.

[-] dinklesplein@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago

i feel like tensions about dating and romance have really begun boiling up the past few years in general. there was a short period a few years ago where i thought incel-ism was dying out as an identity, but these days it seems bigger than its ever been

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[-] SnowySkyes@hexbear.net 58 points 6 months ago

Ngl, there’s been a lot of iffy shit over the last couple months that have been making me rethink being here. If it weren’t for the absolute amazing trans community, I probably would’ve left. A portion of the men on this site make me horrendously uncomfortable and really are just solidifying why I will probably never date or hook up with a man even though I’m pan. Men terrify me now.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 54 points 6 months ago

name and shame tbh. we must prepare another purge

[-] SnowySkyes@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago

I’m gonna try and do this next time that shit happens. As noted, it makes me uncomfortable and I kinda just lose all sense about what to do in the moment. So I tend to just try and ignore the thread after I see what’s going on so to avoid the severe discomfort I feel.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

yeah a lot of people used to talk about SV a lot just off the cuff in jokes and news and memes and i think over time ive been able to get people to realize this isnt ok and now most posts are properly tagged, though i do usually end up reporting one or two each week, particularly from newcomers and fediverse people.

it is generally kinda wild how cis men often have no comprehension about why so many women avoid a wide swathe of internet spaces and activities

[-] T34_69@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

Loading HE, call out targets

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

Thankfully the mods are good people and things like this are usually dealt with pretty quickly

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 6 months ago

So fucked up how common it is for guys to just go to bat for an entirely hypothetical man in an entirely hypothetical scenario rather than just listen to a woman's concerns about how they don't feel safe around men they don't know. I really cast a side eye on any man or masculine presenting person who just wants to dismiss women's concerns the way some of those people did. They're a tiny minority of people there, but the fact that they're here at all is disturbing.

This #Notallmen stuff should have no place here.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

Seriously anyone who even thinks of unironically posting #Notallmen shit should reflect on the deep irony that by doing so they're just proving that they are very much part of the problem

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 46 points 6 months ago

Sorry you experienced that. I had not heard of that meme before reading that thread you linked. I'll say as an male-presenting person, it definitely doesn't feel good to have people assume that you are inherently dangerous for reasons that are out of your control. That's where the instinct to minimize comes from, I think.

But that's how it is, unfortunately. That's the consequence of living under patriarchy, and if a guy doesn't like it then they should assist in dismantling it rather than trying to dismiss its harms.

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[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I heard a coworker today talk about almost getting kidnapped on a Tinder date, with the dude stalking her to her job and following her home. Just horrifying stuff. It's so pervasive but as a guy I don't encounter it until I hear stories like this and realize how dangerous it is out there for women and femmes alike. So, as much as I made jokes in the thread about gay bears, I get the point. It's not safe out there.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago

Yeah that thread was... Enlightening. Sorry you had that happen but it exposed a fair few people that need(ed) to self crit.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

Thank you for being pretty pretty quick to moderate out the jerks. We love our mods, people. meow-hug

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[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago

This might be controversial but I'm gonna say it: it sucks that women/femmes are less safe than men/masc are, it sucks that this means they have to be so careful all the time about things guys don't even think about, it sucks that our society doesn't take their safety or seeking their justice seriously, and we aught to be doing something systemically to address all of those issues.

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[-] blight@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago

It’s wild how someone will say the words “true crime brain” and just completely black out that they just said the word “true”. Like those horrific things happened because real men did them.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

true crime is often railroading and always exploitation.

that doesn't take away from #yesallwomen or give us an ability to tell who's a predator by looking but i have something very specific in mind when i hear "true crime brain" and the truth got nothing to do with it.

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[-] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago

I saw the worst fucking takes around this in a facebook "leftist" group, so many "not all men" telling women to shut up and touch grass, because obviously talking about abuse and being mistrusting of men is "hysterical" and "permanently online". I thought I had stumbled onto 4chan by mistake.

the worst ones were probably spouting literal right-wing racist shit about immigrant men being overrepresented to le epicly troll those evil misandrist women.

fucking disgraceful

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

proof that an iron hand is needed to crush deeply unserious 'leftists' like this

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[-] PoisonIvy@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 6 months ago

I saw your thread before and after it exploded and I am sadly not surprised. Even “left” men are still men.

Many years ago I was walking home from a nearby snack run and was tailed by a large truck with their brights on right behind me for several street blocks who then peeled out and sped away very dramatically when another car came. Tell me when a bear ever does something like that.

[-] Lenins_Cat_Reincarnated@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago

I try to avoid talking about SA on the internet because men with fragile egos will always find it and share their horrible takes in which they are the victims. I didn’t really expect hexbear to be an exception but I’m still sad to see it confirmed

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

men with fragile egos will always find it and share their horrible takes in which they are the victims.

I HATE THIS.

Own what you did, fuckboys. You were monstrous. Own up to it.

I know I did vile shit when I was young, and I spent the next three quarters of my life trying to make a world that doesn't create another Me. I don't go jack myself off on social media to make myself feel better about it.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Looking forward to the next Dirt_Owl post where they talk about how they didn't expect this post talking about how guys minimise SA to draw in guys minimising SA.

(On the plus side, a few more of these and hopefully it'll purge all of the misogynistic assholes from hexbear)

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I hate it when we're right about depressing things

wtf internet-delenda-est

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[-] SocialistWombat@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

Going purely by DV statistics and rape culture, yeah I pick the bear too.

It's agonising to know that I can scare women just by existing in an area/place they don't expect. And that's not their fault, they're just protecting themselves. It's our society that has made it this way.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago

Yeah it's important to remember that women don't hate men when they point out SA. It's more of a "please listen to us this isn't cool" than a "fuck you you are horrible and should feel bad".

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I-was-saying

im mostly joking but unironically i think greater than 50% of men are vile and need to be forcibly de-brainwormed

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[-] booty@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago

yeah that shit was pretty yikes. just another example of how even people who are on board with us most of the time still have serious brainworms to exorcise.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

Okay, but, have you considered: what about ethics in gaming journalism? reakky makes u thikn

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

saul-your-honor But more importantly have you considered the feelings of me, a white man? grillman

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Men: build up for centuries being dangerous and tendency to domination of others as a virtue 'non-dangerous non-overly-confident men are not real men!!!'
Also men: 'how dare you call me "dangerous"!? I am very offended, boo-hoo!'

Also, not on this site, but I have seen women's complaints of sexism be disregarded in supposedly-leftist spaces, such as in threads authored by them and dedicated to them saying that they are excluded from various hobbies/spaces where some people commented 'nobody is complaining about being excluded!'

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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

I'll admit I made a smartass comment or two on social media (even here) about bears being able to run really fast hexbear-shining

But fuck's sake how do you not listen to people reiterating the point again and again that it's a thought exercise meant to make you figure out why the bear is their choice and actually listen

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

I'd imagine that chuds will be puffing their chests after this with "I'm scarier than a bear", but I guess the men saw the question more of "would she rather be in a forest with a bear or with you" and felt mogged by a 300 kilogram hairy animal.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

Shrinking into a corn cob over the fact that woman would literally rather be torn to shreds by a bear than spend time with them

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[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

I saw it yesterday shortly after Read_Fanon had made that lovely response, and I felt good about the comments! I didn't realize it had taken a turn until I saw this post, and there were 100+ new comments 😳 aaaaaahhhhhh

True Crime Brain got me down, I GUESS 😮‍💨😤🤦😭

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[-] Melonius@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

I was talking with a parent some time ago. Her daughter was really sweet and sociable with everyone. She expressed some concern that she was struggling with finding a way to limit / curtail / correct (I don't remember the exact wording) that behavior because it wasn't always safe. At the time, I was thinking more about how crime is hyper focused in media so I pushed back a bit and said I didn't think it was something she should worry about and it was great that her daughter was so outgoing and friendly. I discussed it with a friend and she reminded me that I'm a self-absorbed dude who's never had to worry about that and I really regret saying it.

If I could apologize to that parent now (maybe I'll see her again idk) I'd say that it sucks that our society makes being such a wonderful person like her daughter so hazardous. I gave it 0 thought and talked out of my ass kitty-birthday-sad

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[-] Gorb@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

Disappointing yet not surprising, I've noticed guys on here having exceptionally cringe takes for a while.

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