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[-] glimse@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago

Ethical Skeptic

Thinks The Bible was real

[-] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 23 points 5 months ago

I'm not anything that can be remotely considered religious, but flood myths are fairly common in ancient folklore, so if anything from the Bible might have been true, then there might have been a great flood at some point.

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

There was. The Tigris and Euphrates flooded several times. Noah’s Ark is a retelling of an older Sumerian myth.

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[-] kromem@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Noah's ark was probably originally a famine narrative.

After the Babylonian captivity we see the Babylonian flood mythos in the extant version of the story.

Sometimes similarities between world religions can be explained by common physical features, like stories of resurrection associated with snakes (who shed skin) or with the planet Venus (which dips below the horizon for several days before reemergence).

But sometimes it's because people are just plagiarizing.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

there definitely wasn't some earth-covering flood, since that would take a stupendous amount of water that later just vanished.

What is likely however is raised sea levels, drowning low-lying areas like the dogger bank. It's pretty insane how much more land we used to have, doggerland is/was about the size of the netherlands and since it would have been extremely fertile it's likely it was a very important area for people in the past, so frankly it could very well be the source for the atlantis myth even.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Atlantis was a hypothetical society thought up for an argument that everyone immediately took way too seriously.

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[-] protist@mander.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

Democratic People's Republic of Korea naming convention

[-] DPRK_Official@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Quiet, fool. Let it be known that no country is more democratic than the DPRK.

It's merely a coincidence our Dear Leader received 100% of the votes.

[-] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 72 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In terms of the erosion, doesn't wind erosion on raised surfaces behave very similar to how water erosion on shores behaves?

Since both are just fluids brushing up against surfaces, and the fact in the desert the wind will have a lot of silica dust in it, it stands to reason the wind currents around the pyramid would have very similar erosion patterns to water on a shore.

Fluids are fluids, air doesn't behave to dissimilar from the ocean, and wind is not to dissimilar from water currents in terms of the physics.

Silica dust will kick up off the nearby dunes, carry in the wind, but due to its weight it'll be less likely to erode higher elevations. So the tip top of the pyramid is high enough up sand in the wind won't reach it as easily so it erodes way slower.

Much akin to how waves crash on a coastline, water has weight so the higher an elevation is, the less and less sea spray it gets hit by, so it erodes slower.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

Silica dust will kick up off the nearby dunes, carry in the wind, but due to its weight it’ll be less likely to erode higher elevations. So the tip top of the pyramid is high enough up sand in the wind won’t reach it as easily so it erodes way slower.

That, and the pyramids were stripped for building materials later on. Lower levels were easier to access, so people didn't generally bother going all the way to the top, except for the ones with gold covered peaks.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Not to mention, according to the Bible the world was only flooded for a few months. I'm not an expert on erosion, but this guy definitely is dumber than me.

[-] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Also even going with the flood theory, pretty sure Egypt comes after Noah even in the Bible itself >_>;

The world did flood when humans were around (most cultures have great flood stories from ancient times), but that was way way before Egypt.

Amusingly iirc the Nile nearby however is a great example of proof the earth once was covered in ice the melted and flood, as I believe it's a giant striation or whatever the term is, huge gouge left behind by receding ice, no?

That's why it's so big and runs so far, it's ancient from countless years of erosion and meandering after being carved out during the ice age.

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[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

With no background in the subject my assumption is that it would be more punctuated or abrupt for water. However I don't think it would be two lines for the troughs vs crests. I'd assume it would just be general water height. The reason is that water would obviously erode much quicker than air. Add on that the water level is much more definite than air and how high dust would get within the air to increase erosion.

Again, no background expertise. Just what I'd guess in the given subject in general.

[-] Lemmeenym@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

I'm going to throw a little bit of a curveball at ya. Most of the damage to the pyramids in Giza isn't from erosion. They were originally covered in white limestone and the tops were capped in hammered gold. An earthquake sometime in the early 1300s began dislodging the limestone and from about 1600 to about 1800 a quarry was established in Giza and the gold and limestone were removed.

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[-] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm amazed that they draw the Earth as a globe

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 17 points 5 months ago

But still think its "geographic center" is on the surface, in Turkey of all places. Perhaps because it's near the threshold of the 3 old continents, which is where the Mediterranean ("Mid-Earth-ean") Sea got its name from?

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 63 points 5 months ago

If the tips of those pyramids were above water during Noah's flood, wouldn't that mean there was still a ton of land left?

[-] venoft@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

There are higher hills in Egypt, let alone mountain ranges.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Not only are there higher hills, the Pyramid of Djedefre, which is now mostly gone, was put on a plateau overlooking the Giza pyramids specifically so Djedfre, who was the sun of Khufu, who built the great pyramid, could say that his was higher than his father's.

[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Noah was before Moses so I don't the pyramids were built before the flood.

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[-] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago

"The great flood" 😂

The one which submerged the whole earth for what, 40 days? Wonder where the water went

[-] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago

Someone pulled the great plug

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Let's say for the sake of argument for a second that it happened... can you imagine the stench from the trillions of rotting human and animal corpses when it all went away? Noah and clan would have to live with that for months.

[-] L3mmyW1nks@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

So that's why he became a drunk that got angry at his kids when they tried to cover him up while he was blacked-out and naked in his hut?

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[-] genuineparts@infosec.pub 12 points 5 months ago

Down the drain into the hollow earth, duh!

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Hollow?!? That can't even be possible!

How can a flat disk on a turtle's back be hollow?

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[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Supposedly the black sea area after the messinian flood (mediterranean was dry in the salinity crysis), where humanity was at the time. Though there's no proof.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Almost every culture worldwide has great flood myths. It's probably because of the Younger Dryas Period. Glaciers melted, and dumped amounts of water that were larger than The Great Lakes in volume. You can see the evidence of it, if you aren't speculating wildly.

Apparently it happened multiple times. Just not the entire world at once, but certainly from the ancient people's perspective it seemed like it.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Not the whole world. According to the post, water only rose by about 60 m (to the base of the Great Pyramid of Giza + some 100 m (¾ of its height) compared to current sea level. This would flood most homes back then but less than 25% of land area, so the majority of displaced people would just survive as nomads in the highlands.

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[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 5 months ago

Or...or...now hear me out...just maybe... possibly...the outer stones were looted and used to build structures in the area?

[-] rothaine@lemm.ee 37 points 5 months ago

52 + 52 = 104

Sure, sure. But what if I told you...

52 + 53 = 105

🤯🤯🤯🤯

[-] blueamigafan@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago

I used to work with someone who believed the pyramids are fake, also I have seen a photo of the same person visiting the pyramids on holiday when they were younger. There was no changing their minds either, so weird.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

Running down the terms they use is such a joy. I learned about Large low-velocity provinces (seismic tomography), intermediate axis thereom, and that these people have no idea what they are saying. It's delightful.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We actually went over this whole thing when I was in design school. Later, I interviewed with a company that had some e who used to be on the Pepsi marketing team in the room that was responsible for green-lighting this.

It was an interesting conversation.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

So this thing isn't parody?

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Nope. When Pepsi redesigned its logo in 2015 or whatever, the designer put together this huge style guide book that was full of this crap about the logo. It was ridiculous.

Pages and pages of it

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

I sometimes wonder if the other wonders were still around if we'd have wild haired guys on the History channel asking rhetorical questions about who could have possibly built the gardens of Babylon.

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[-] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago

Are you okay, colleague? You've barely touched your cab ride..

[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

🤣🤣🤣 wait till I tell you how this proves Harry Potter was real

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

wtf am I supposed to get from this? That somecunt thinks the pyramids made it through the floods of middle & near east folklore? Vapid shit, really.

[-] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 9 points 5 months ago

The sea peoples did not merely sail the waves, they rode them

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

If it was water, wouldn’t everything be smooth?

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[-] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Quick- somebody call the History Channel!

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[-] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Believe it or not... Aliens

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[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Lol ethical morons.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Romans 8:28 lol

looks at a picture on the internet

"Well, that's that. The pyramids pre-date us. Something's going on."

Yeah, Big Archaeology! Tell us what you're hiding!

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[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

lol - these dumbasses think the world is round 🤣

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