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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world

If you are looking to help bail water, @teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world recommend Mobilize.us to find opportunities to get started. We are all in this boat together.

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[-] teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago

You're not one of the people bailing water in this image.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 5 months ago

People on this sub react to memes that criticize both parties without explicitly mentioning they still vote for Biden, the way that most Westerners react to somebody criticizing Israel without explicitly mentioning they condemn the October 7th attack.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Be fair. People here react that way even if the person who posts the meme does explicitly mention they're voting for Biden.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

Probably because of the significant overlap between people who abjectly refuse to do either.

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[-] WhatIsThePointAnyway@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So what’s the plan to change it? All I have heard proposed is don’t vote or vote third party. No third party is remotely close to having a real shot in the near term. I am disappointed in Biden on some things like Palestine, but what are my options in the near term? We need to build a progressive grass roots party but that takes time, money, and a lot of work no one seems to want to do. Protests are a path but not one that seems to be making enough impact. I hear so much negativity like this but it seems to all point towards options that won’t fix the issue. Getting Trump back will set back progressive movements drastically with the rights hold on the courts and the house. Biden has done some compromise to the left at least. We need a real path to change and it’s got to be a long term plan because democracies move slowly.

[-] teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Organize with a local campaign you agree with.

You can find one at mobilize.us

[-] WhatIsThePointAnyway@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

This is good. I wish more people pushed stuff like this instead of just throwing up their hands about the whole system.

[-] teodor_from_achewood@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Me too. I hope you sign up for something.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

this the general suggestion i see being given nowadays when this question is asked

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I get the people are too nervous to do it this election cycle, but the real answer is to create an organized movement in which you explicitly tell Democrats they will not get your votes unless they change course.

Let's say that this movement occurs within the next four years and not during this election cycle. If they genuinely want to win, they will have to capitulate. We just need to give them enough time in advance and the make clear concise demands.

[-] Ellvix@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Changing the voting system would do a lot. First Past the Post sort of locks in a 2 party only matchup, and if we move to a better system (ranked choice, star, etc), third party candidates would be a real option and we could start to make those changes you want. As always, it starts local, some places are doing it already, we just need to keep expanding.

[-] ZMoney@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

https://www.gp.org/

https://pslweb.org/

https://www.dsausa.org/

If you get tired of posting about how hopeless it is, go join a group that is trying to change things.

[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Get angry and boot these fucks out of the boat. Voting doesnt work but open revolt might.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Hey look, I can make it say whatever I want too! This proves my viewpoint, I will take no further questions.

[-] buttPickle@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Yeah but yours isn’t correct as OP’s was

[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Did you have further questions?

Or is it enough to say that I was just sharing what could very generously be called art to express my point of view and hoped that it resonated with folk and would prompt discussion that might be in it's own small way a part of the change I hope to see?

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Technically, mocking you is discussion ;)

Okok I'll stop being mean

[-] wafflez@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Conflating leftists with democrats?

[-] lewdian69@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Now THIS is an accurate meme

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Meme is missing another citizen not bailing and saying "just vote for someone else" and then a body floating face down in the water that says "3rd party candidates".

Oh and approximately 2 more citizens dumping buckets of water back in the boat, screaming about how their rights to drill holes come from god and that the people bailing water are what is really wrong with the whole boat.

[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

If only my artistic skills went beyond adding text to ~~stolen~~ borrowed images.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Except the two on the top are in a yatch playing golf

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago
[-] hobovision@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I hate that I can't tell if video game, render, or AI generated anymore.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I know what you mean, but it was from a “gawk at rich people” site. 50/50 odds it was at least pitched to some rich fuck.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Nah, they’re going down with this ship same as the rest of us.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Nah, most of them are far too rich for the system they built to let them suffer any real hardships.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

The collapse of global society amidst climate change is not something they can be safe from.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

They absolutely can. When you're a hectomillionaire or richer or good enough friends with one, you don't depend on a functional society to be safe. They made sure of that.

A man with a hundred million dollars in 1990s Mogadishu would be safer than a man with a hundred thousand dollars in 2020s Milwaukee.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A man with a hundred million dollars in 2060 is worth the same as a man with 0 dollars, because once global society collapses so do your dollars.

These geniuses think they can escape to their bunkers and keep their security forces loyal to them. That won't happen, the people with the guns will take the land and the resources and leave the billionaires dead.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

A man with a hundred million dollars in 2060 is worth the same as a man with 0 dollars, because once global society collapses so do your dollars

Nah, they'll have ways around that such as alternate currencies or converting their money to gold or other valuable commodities.

They're already own or are increasingly owning all sources of food, fresh water, large scale power generation and fuel.

Also, you're REALLY underestimating how much the people with the most guns love following authoritarian leaders unquestioningly. Blind obedience of authority figures is one of the cornerstones of their religion, after all..

[-] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The food is going to be among the first things to fall. The climate will make growing large amounts of crops increasingly difficult, regardless of money thrown at the problem. Once food becomes globally insecure, the rich will be worldwide targets. The rich are not escaping the hell that's coming. Their wealth will help them suffer it a little longer than the rest of us though. No one is getting out of this. Money can't buy off extinction.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago

The vote determines who gets control of the drill

[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

"Nothing matters don't try".... yeah

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 23 points 5 months ago

I mean, those guys with the buckets sure are trying something, taking direct action to avoid disaster.

[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

On the contrary, it all matters. Try like hell, go down kicking and screaming, vote for Biden if only to prevent more holes from being drilled, push for class consciousness and solidarity, get organized, get involved, and bail water like crazy.

Just don't mistake where you are in this image, and don't mistake the Dems for allies, they are at best a useful tool.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago
[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The real tragedy to me is neither one of us are. Weird time to say it, but I appreciate your consistency in making posts that push for a better future.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Can we get a huge yacht with a piss stream coming from off screen and landing in the boat?

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