Yeah, don't dilute the product with this TEAMS filler, SMDH

My manager doesn't really care about that, and hence, I'm currently only in office for our monthly company meeting, and thats mostly to help out the new CEO have a room of people instead of just a zoom call. I do enjoy when I go in, but once a month is enough for me. If I were closer, once a week would be fine too, but I really benefit in a ton of ways working from home, and in office I'm usually just helping others out and twidling my thumbs(helping people out is a major part of my job, but I can still do that remote as well).

My team has one day per week where we have our regular team meetings and the expectation is we are usually in the office on that day. Outside of that, we all set our own schedules based on our needs. Some people just like being in the office or have job duties that necessitate it. Others like me have little reason to be in the office other than specific meetings so I WFH 4 days most weeks, coming in on those if needed.

It's the best work setup I've had so far, and a lot of that is because our manager is actually great at her job.

Exactly right. We came back to the office 1 day a week and moved every zoom/TeAmS meeting put of that day so we could focus on "in person" work...

My wife's team on the other hand, were told to come back 2 days a week, they chose whichever building from a few available and whatever day. The result is that she goes to an office to sit around strangers and do, uncomfortably, the same tasks she would do from home.

It's so stupid, but the extra stupid in the case of that job was that not having everyone WFH was actually costing them money.

For me, the occasional office visit is basically for socialization only. Meeting up with coworkers, have lunch, hang out for a bit in the office, then back home to work.

I work with some non-technical people that just need in person communication because that is how the rest of their job works. They are the knowledge experts about the things we are creating web systems to support.

If I worked only with technical people I would expect remote to work for everything.

I work from home entirely.

The issue with this topic is that most people can't see past their own roles and experiences with it to see how office time can sometimes be beneficial (as you outline above) or completely pointless (my case).

It's good to have a place to meet clients, or have important meetings, so I go when only when I need to do that. For some people that's all they do. Other people can do their jobs away from the office. Neither side should be slammed for their view; the only people we should slam are our corporate overlords. Now get in the Hilux

Yes, they're getting downvoted because of what you said in your second paragraph. It doesn't work for everyone.

The only way my current boss can contact me is by going through his secretary. I think that's dumb, mostly because the secretary is not very good, and is slow to relay information. But whatever, that's the way they want it.

Leave me alone and I am much more productive, if you watch me like a hawk you can expect quality and quantity to go down, and I'm gonna quit.

I really don't like being watched, but more than that I will focus on someone watching me rather than the work at hand.

My last job had so much hardware troubleshooting involved that when we had that talk about RTO after COVID, I told that boss flat-out I wouldn't do hybrid. All Hybrid would mean is that I would have two labs, and inevitably whatever I needed would be in the other place. I told him to either keep me home full time, or I come into the office full time.

For unrelated reasons, I left for a full time remote role. Very little hardware troubleshooting required. I could not have done my last job like this, but for this job it's perfect.

Everyone's situation is different. Anyone who says that there's only one way to do it is ignorant.