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I cannot get over this. Biden has destroyed an incomprehensible number of lives between the Crime bill, college debt and medical bills, the violence on the border, the extrajudicial assassinations and renditions, the genocides in Yemen and Gaza. What the fuck are liberals? What are they? Why don't they care about any of this? What the fuck? matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt matt

My brain i s just making whatever noise this picture of Matt is and it's been mkaing that noise for years. How can they just not care? How is this not real to them?

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[-] Angel@hexbear.net 57 points 5 months ago

On top of that, can someone explain to me why I'm a trans person in Florida who has been negatively impacted by DeSantis' shitty regulations to trans healthcare and Biden did jack and shit about that? These libs will say shit like "Well, at least Biden cares about trans rights!" to pathetically compensate for him funding a genocide among other things, but I'm not seeing it.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Right? He's not doing anything! He has enormous bully pulpit power to fuck with the GOP and he's not using it. I always point this out, the SCOTUS has ruled that he can literally just point at someone, say "Terrorist!" and shoot them in the head! And he has endless more realistic powers through is dictatorial control of the executive, federal law enforcement, all kinds of shit. I have had libs straight up tell me that it would be wrong for him to use any of it. Like, I posit "Well what if he just told the justice department to move the criminal investigation of whoever to the top of the pile? They don't have to make any charges up, these guys are legit genuine criminals, just move the prosecution of their real and legitimate crimes to the top of the to-do list" and dems start whining about norms and civility and abuse of power. He has power. He has vast power. he's the goddamn POTUS! He's not doing shit about shit. Fuck!~

As near as I can tell almost all action against GOP anti-Trans bills is coming from the fucking GOP as judges or even legislators shut it down for being too batshit and unconstitutional for even them to stomach! FDUCKFSDLJSAFGL:KDJFK:LAEDSJKLGFDASJK:LGEDASjkl;gdgfj;klawdssjkl;;gaejkd;lfsga

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

But he says there are at least 3 genders, if you want anything more you are a woke Hamas communist

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

Because making a public display of “caring” is what matters for them. It’s politics as personal branding, so as long as the image of pro-trans rights is there, that works for their particular “personal brand.” They want you to interpret their support of the Democrats as meaning they’re a trans ally.

[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 49 points 5 months ago
[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago

Oh this is a good one

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 46 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I said this in another thread, but it's breaking my brain that all these lib fucks are suddenly coming to the realization what a disaster Biden is, but only because he shat the bed in the dog and pony show. And now the concern is for the safety of America.

But all these years that of pointing out all the awful shit he's done was nothing to them. Time and again they would sweep those concerns to the side. They were willing to vote for Biden even though he's been helping carry out a fucking genocide and accused anyone of not voting for him to be a "single issue" voter. Yet they're all pressing the panic button now that he publicly embarrassed himself and their whole sycophantic party in front of the world.

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

they followed authority before nd thy follow authority now ... simply dont epect them to do a thing thats not "allowed" ever...

they dont actually have much of an Identity.. they are more echoing resonace Bodies.. Untertanen.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

Liberal = Domesticated Human

Broken and tamed

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

upadate is that Barack said that we gonna stay with Biden .. so they will now jump on the "he had a cold and actually is fit" train and their little episode of Exposore will be Buried again..

"what are you talking about ? he won that debate!"

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 45 points 5 months ago

Everyone that they conceptualize as being on both Trump and Biden's kill list they just sort of consign to being "doomed to die anyway" like the Calvinists they are. Since they are destined to be killed, how can we blame Biden for killing them when there are also people he could kill but doesn't, while Trump would? Thus spake the lib.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago

Okay yeah, that makes a sick kind of sense.

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I think it's always some combination of "if not me, then someone worse than me would have taken my spot, killed them, and two more people for the trouble." and "I was just following orders."

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 36 points 5 months ago

i'm one of the people he's hurt with his anti-gay; college debt; and medical bills agenda, it gives me a visceral reaction each time i read a lemmite (lemmy-ite?) refuse to believe that he did it when it's takes less that 30 seconds on google to confirm it.

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

Its "lemming". IIRC there's a github issue where /u/Dessalines confirms he prefers that because the idea that lemmings commit mass suicide is literal Disney fiction.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

Biden was also the accelerationist option the whole time.

Do you want mask-on dem

Or

Do you want pigmask-off trump-kubrick-stare

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Right? People complaining about accelerationists are ridiculous. No individual could make things worse faster than the current ruling powers are. They're sprinting towards every X-risk imaginable.

[-] Florn@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago

Most Americans can't wrap their heads around the idea that other countries are real places with real people

[-] Des@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

his crime bill utterly fucked me and i hate him for it

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

us-foreign-policy but the opacity decreases as you go down the chart

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

liberals absolve their candidates of all their crimes, because the alternative, the Bizarro World conservative candidate that won in the parallel universe, would have done something worse.

all throughout Obama's 8 years, anytime someone brought up a failed promise, the eternal wars, or the deportations or anything, what we were told was, "Bush would have made it worse." even when people brought up statistics about drone strikes or deportations and how Obama was harsher than Bush, the libs would short-circuit and say that Bush, if allowed to preside over the precise historical moment that Obama did, would have been worse. and this is implied to absolve Obama.

it turns out you can take a simple message, a complete false statement even, and broadcast it over and over again from every speaker and screen... and other people will believe it and repeat it to be a part of what they perceive as the popular in-group and assume a feeling of safety from the illusion of numbers.

my latest favorite example of that was when, when biden killed the railroad strike before it could start by using congress to force a deal favoring the owners and conceding nothing for workers (0 safety considerations, 0 sick days, etc), the phrase, "most pro union president since FDR" entered the public consciousness. and then that ultra-long, no brakes train derailed in ohio and poisoned a town. and these fucking lib bozos kept repeating the lie and claiming Build Back Better was the retroactive solution which fixed the problems happening after it.

a lib president could admit to dropping a biological weapon on china that specifically targets children and every paper would declare him the greatest and most loving humanitarian since Jesus.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

I did a whole ass thing about the train derailment. And you're right about everything.,

[-] MaeBorowski@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

all throughout Obama's 8 years, anytime someone brought up a failed promise, the eternal wars, or the deportations or anything, what we were told was, "Bush would have made it worse."

We were? I mean, that's not what I remember being told. Not because libs were above that (obviously), but rather it doesn't make any sense. Bush got his 2 terms. Bush already succeeded in being the greater evil and was out of the picture regardless of who took the reins in the white house in 2008. I know what you're saying doesn't necessarily mean this, but a few times now I've seen hexbears talk as though Bush was voted out in favor of Obama. This is not what happened. Bush was never voted out, and Obama never ran against Bush. John McCain was the Republican nominee (and a big argument of the libs at the time was that he was unfit for office because he was too old and frail, lmao, the irony right?). And after McCain lost to Obama, the liberal response still wasn't even that McCain would have been worse. You really only see that kind of talk (at least in my experience) directed at potential future threats, which obviously Bush no longer was after he won his 2nd term in 2004. It was simply taken as a given that Bush had been worse because it was his fault that poor Obama had to clean up his mess.

No, the way the liberals, especially Democrats defended against people pointing out the reality that Obama's increased drone strikes, continued use of torture, and especially the neverending wars, was not to say Bush would have been worse but simply to say "Well Bush started it, which was unjust, but now that we're in it, we have to win it." There wasn't even a pretense at "Bush would have been worse" because all they had to do was blame it all on Bush to begin with. "Obama inherited a terrible situation, a quagmire we're in thanks to Bush. But what are we supposed to do now, just give Afghanistan to the Taliban? What, do you side with the terrorists?"

And about drone strikes, the defense I remember seeing all the time, was that they were more humane than what Bush did. "Drone strikes don't risk American troops the way Bush did, and really they're so much more effective at getting the baddies who never even see them coming! It's 'unfortunate' that there has been innocent children hit, but that's just 'collateral damage.'" It was shocking (to me, being more naive at the time) how freely and without reflection the Democrats took up the exact same rhetoric that they had correctly railed against when the Republicans used it. The Republican neocons having practically invented "collateral damage" as a popular euphemism was embraced by the Democrats immediately after they came to power.

a lib president could admit to dropping a biological weapon on china that specifically targets children and every paper would declare him the greatest and most loving humanitarian since Jesus.

Totally. Remember that Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize after ramping up so many of Bush's warcrimes.

[-] Taster_Of_Treats@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Didn't he win the prize before taking office? I might be remembering wrong.

Edit: Nah, it was 8 months in. Still wildly early, considering.

Their only fig leaf in retrospect is that the full scope of his crimes was not yet known, although some were.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 9 points 5 months ago

It's their fault for naming their town East Palestine. They should be happy Biden didn't authorise Israel to bomb them yet.

[-] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 3 points 5 months ago

You don't understand, yes Hitler isn't perfect but MechaHitler would open yet another front and also develop a way to kill each person twice probably

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago

Liberals are part of a political cult with the DNC and New York Crimes at the head. They have absorbed the dictates of their cult leaders such that they reflexively reject all criticism and compare it to wanting the worst thing conceivable (to them) to happen, i.e. Trump winning again.

They don't have to think about the things you mention because their media bubble does not tell them to nor does it emphasize these things as bad or harmful. Their bubble says murdered Palestinians were killed in the passive voice and Israelis are killed by "terrorists". Their bubble barely talked about Yemen at all during the Obama years and their responses to hearing about it are usually bewilderment and frustration that they don't have a snappy comeback ready for "Obama killed a bunch of kids by starving an entire country". The Crime Bill doesn't mean anything to most liberals, they don't even know that it is or what it did. It's an amorphous blob that other people say is bad and rather than learn anything about it they just change the subject.

Liberals can be rescued from their cult but they have to get over the main hurdle they constructed at the behest of their masters: incredible arrogance and incuriositu. It can be challenging to knock them off their little pedestal constructed of Washington Post Op-Eds saying the Democratic primaries should be less democratic and all poor people deserve what they get. They have to be slapped with something and clearly a blatant genocide isn't enough - they still turned to their masters and lapped up the false narratives. Their boy being senile is having a greater impact because while it runs against their years-long excuses given against the left pointing out the obvious, it reconfirms their practice of, "politics is a team sport horse race" that makes them feel oh so very smart. They don't have to make a very big adjustment like caring about dead brown people.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

I'd like to misquote the theme song from the Shrek movies :

It's a cool place and they say it gets colder
You're bundled up now, wait 'til you get older
But the media men beg to differ
Judging by the hole in the satellite picture

The media men says it does not matter, so it doesn't.

[-] m532@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Most people can only see a very small part of the world with their own eyes

The rest they get from TV

usa controls the TV -> they can directly control people's minds about anything those people didn't see for themselves

And those that saw something that contradicts the narrative get group pressured into forgetting it

[-] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Because they're white supremacist national chauvinists who have no meaningful differences from the conservatives they fear so much.

[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

What are we supposed to do about it? Yeah he sucks but like... with the current system, he is the best option

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