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He should just delay the trial and run for president so he can get immunity. It's working so far for trump even though he is a literal traitor so it should work for Alec.
It kind of feels like they’re throwing Alec Baldwin under the bus for this. Obviously the quartermaster needs to get in trouble
She already did. Pretending the guy that pulled the trigger and is a producer doesn't also share blame is disingenuous though.
For real, everything Alec Baldwin comes up there's always this what about game for blaming other people. They've already punished other people, he's next.
I don't disagree, but I do wonder where the line is. Is there no room for accidents? Is someone to be on the line after Alec Baldwin?
I suppose.
Prosecutors allege that the two did not follow proper safety protocols in a number of ways. "On the day of the shooting alone, evidence shows that no less than a dozen acts, or omissions of recklessness, occurred in the short time prior to lunch and the time of the shooting, and this does not include the reckless handling of the firearm by Baldwin," the statement says. "Baldwin, by act or omission or failure to act in his position as a producer, directly contributed and/or failed to mitigate numerous reckless and dangerous actions during a very short time period."
If by "throwing under the bus" you mean punishing those involved, especially the one that pulled the trigger on a firearm that did not malfunction, then yeah we are. I'll never understand why people defend him so much, he made a huge awful mistake, and just like anyone else he needs to see the consequences.
Because in the film industry, actors are not the ones responsible when it comes to firearms. There are armourers/props, people, and even assistant directors who are responsible for on set safety, actors and crew trust other departments to do their job correctly and safely. There are so many rules and regulations for how guns are handled on set, on every set I have worked on guns were locked in a safe with the armourer being the only one with the key, they would have to have their eyes on the weapon at all times with no exceptions when it was outdside the safe. You don't hold an actor responsible if there is a stunt gone wrong or a piece of the set falls down because it isn't their job unless he was behaving recklessly or outrageously. Although he may hold some culpability due to his role as a producer and the financial stuff, i.e., budget cutting, hiring inexperienced crew, etc. I can't stand the man myself, but he is not the one who is most responsible for this incident
This is more because he was the producer. IIRC Baldwin said to ignore a bunch of that safety stuff.
The quartermaster is responsible for the operation of the guns. There never should have been live ammo on the set.
I agree with no live ammo. But it's crazy to me that people hop to his defense when it would taken seconds for him to make sure it wasn't loaded. Regardless of everyone else's job. I know whenever I'm handed a firearm, the first thing I do every time is check if it's loaded.
Well, that firearm shouldn’t be capable of firing live rounds. It’s a movie prop. There should never be a question if it’s dangerous, because the answer will always be “no”
Sure that should always be the case. But this time it wasn't. And because of his actions someone died. As an actor and a producer he should never have even had a chance of firing a live round while they weren't filming, but he did. If the round never hit anybody this would be an entirely different case, unfortunately that's not how it went down.
As a producer, a fine. As an actor, nothing.
The quartermaster should get manslaughter and a host of other negligence charges.
Trusting actors who studied Shakespeare in college to be responsible for determining if a prop is actually a lethal weapon is absurd. That's why there's a trained person on set where that's literally their whole responsibility. I like Baldwin's acting. I've also heard he's shitty to his daughter. I'm not defending him as a person. I'm defending him because he's innocent of this charge. His job was to point something that resembled a gun at someone and pull the trigger. It was someone else's to ensure that would be a safe action.
I still don't understand why they'd have live ammunition on a film set.
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