Keys have existed for over 4000 years.

Stop trying to reinvent shit that isn't broken.

This is the dumbest thing. I had to rescue a Tesla owner a couple of weeks ago, she was stuck in our lobby because her phone battery died and she couldn’t open her car so I went back to get her a charger

Imagine being stranded because your phone died lol

Physical keys, physical buttons, physical currency

I will never budge on any of this

buys multi ton metal heap

yeah sure the key fob is wasteful

Return to physical keys and mandate that they cost 20$

You ever lost a key and had to buy a new one? It's like 150$ for no reason!

If something needs an app to operate I don't buy it ever. Simple as. Stop trying to shove your malware addled garbage onto me.

Yeah my phone is certainly never dead when I'm away from my home. These people are clowns.

Having the fob in my pocket and just getting in the car and turning it on is way more convenient than getting out my phone, waiting for Face ID to fail twice, and then entering my passcode.

i drive a car with a key. like the kind you insert into the ignition and turn. i was giving somebody from work a ride the other day, and they were like, "wow, i haven't seen one of those in a while!"

i know i'll probably have to do the FOB thing eventually (because the future is when every simple mechanism requires a battery), but i would refuse anything that needed my phone. yes, let's make the cell phone, the device that has 10-20X'd in price in 15 years and become the near-universal tether to work, identity, and payment become the single point of failure that renders one completely fucked if broken, stolen, lost, or drained.

people who bazinga over shit like this are people who confuse being dependent on a technology with understanding a technology.

Boomer question, but how do you drop your car off for an oil change or whatever without a key?

I can't be the only person who doesn't have a constant, uninterrupted cell signal and constant access to a wall outlet. The idea that everything for everyone can always be done on a cell phone always seems like unexamined, tech utopianism.

"Your OS is not compatible with this application, update your phone's OS"

clicks system update in Settings

"Your phone is no longer supported and cannot upgrade to the current version of this operating system."

Keyfobs have physical buttons that provide tactile feedback that a phone can never offer

That in and of itself makes the keyfob superior

Hello sir did you remember to pay your $200 per year ignition access fee

I was hanging out with my friend and he said he couldn't check his phone but the reason why is embarrassing.

Turns out his battery was low and he couldn't start his Tesla without it lol

Mfw my bike lock has a physical key ~___~

"Your phone is the best car key" and other statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

Carbrain really does this to a mf

This world fucking sucks

Don’t these people piss themselves over crime and hobos? What happens if you lose your phone or get robbed? You’d have no choice but gasp ride the bus like a poor

Keyless entry was the worst idea

Yet another thing to hack. Combined with automated driving, we could do very funny things with this...

To that end, these key fobs that you just leave in your purse eat up coin cell batteries like crazy.

YESSSSS

More inconveniences for car drivers. Bike gang 4 life

Denmark is moving to a system where all tail cards are exclusively on the phone. I hate it. Yeah let's make it so kids can't travel alone, let's make it difficult for the elderly, let's make it so you have to carry a GPS device, lets make it so you have to carry a charged phone, let's fine you if you run out of juice.

The battery in a key fob I have has to be replaced every 2 years. It's not like the old remotes where it only transmits when you press the button. Because of the stupid push button start, it HAS to transmit all of the time and kill your battery on a schedule. This isn't some luxury car either, it's a base model mazda.

Car companies don't get enough hate for taking away the glorious key barrel. It's even more convenient, because it gives you a place to put your key while you're driving. I hate having it in my pocket and since there's no ignition now, I have to put it somewhere in the car instead of sticking it in a place I don't use.

the biggest waste in this scenario is the tesla itself

better idea: how about we kill elon musk instead?