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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 132 points 4 months ago

The CBC is a big part of the reason Canada isn't as messed up as the US.

Canada has for-profit media and plenty of media that leans left or right. But, CBC exists to anchor that media universe with a boring, institutionalist, honest view.

[-] quicksand@lemm.ee 39 points 4 months ago

The US has NPR and PBS but I'm guessing they're not as influential as the CBC is in Canada

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago

I don't even think PBS & NPR are as well funded (though I don't have sources to support that). That's why they're always doing telethons and thanking "viewers like you" for supporting their programming.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

And they’ve already had massive funding cuts and corporate sponsors stepped in.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago

So why so you think poliviere is trying to get rid of it?

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 43 points 4 months ago

CBC has too much of a pro fact bias

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

"Reality has a well known liberal bias"

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[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 95 points 4 months ago

Any problems the CBC has will be dwarfed by the massive problems having a for profit media cause.

When money becomes the only goal, society will be harmed.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

When money becomes the only goal, society will be harmed.

That's true in every part of society, not only the media.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

I don't necessarily agree. There are some industries where the market is free enough that competition really does work.

Just not things like housing, healthcare, and the media.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 79 points 4 months ago

As more and more traditional media die, the more we need CBC. It's only becoming more important.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 63 points 4 months ago

Hey, Ontario dumbfucks, stop voting CPC. You can swing this election.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 months ago

Ontario is a brain injury.

[-] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 7 points 4 months ago

I won't be voting for the Liberal party again unless they give us the electoral reform they promised us and didn't deliver when they had a majority government.

I'm hopeful for a strong NDP opposition to a Conservative minority.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago
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[-] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 63 points 4 months ago

The conservatives truly want to destroy Canada, they look to the south, see the divided country down there, and say "yes, please, some of that up here"

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 48 points 4 months ago

Only fools would conclude that the problem of executive bonuses is caused by a public funding model. If you thought private companies don't hand out outlandish bonuses to executives, you haven't been paying attention.

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 6 points 4 months ago

Also, bonuses are also explicitly part of many compensation packages. It's contractually required for them to be paid, in many cases.

There are lots of reasons why this is done, too; for example, it can be used to reduce risk. If bonuses are tied to the success of a program, then the CBC doesn't pay as much for "duds" that don't earn as much revenue.

[-] droopy4096@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago

We can go back to "reforms" Harper government done like muzzling scientists and defunding projects serving public interest. Of course those same people would want to defund the only outlet not in their pockets. I haven't seen a single point on Conservative agenda that is not going to harm average person short or long term. yet people still vote them in and Liberals behaving like entitled pricks do not make situation any better. Even NDP has shifted to the right. There's no federal party with representation in Parliament that has workers as a central point of their agenda. Everything is now about business which is very much not the same

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Trudeau has run his course and has become too entrenched. People are screaming for change and we never vote NDP. Pollieve is poison. He's going to gut our desperately needed social programs for tax cuts that benefit corporations the most.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago

I will never understand the thing about Canadians refusing to vote for the only major party that plans to actually improve their lives.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

With our current system you either vote strategically or with your heart, and those are often conflicting. Either I vote with my heart (NDP), or I vote strategically (LPC) to counter the CPC.

I'd like to at least see the approval voting system one day.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

I've voted NDP many times over the years.

But when they run a non-viable seat filler in my riding, voting ABC becomes the pragmatic choice.

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[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Bob Rae was and still is an excellent leader and statesman.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yup. But Cons scream about him every time you bring up the NDP as an alternative.

We are essentially the same as America, a two-party system.

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[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I will never understand the NDP not switching their leadership and messaging.

Singh is not going to win. They need a more pro worker and pro jobs message.

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[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 months ago

As much as I like the cbc, the upper management should not be handing out bonuses while workers are being laid off.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 39 points 4 months ago

Some of these bonuses are part of the performance evaluation they already signed on and whether they met these objectives or not. You can't really go back on an agreement made before the cuts.

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[-] Rakenclaw@fedia.io 24 points 4 months ago

I can hardly wait to not vote for this guy.

[-] SamuelRJankis@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Most people would just say CBC should be run differently, but everyone familiar with the Conservatives know they really just itching to do a fire sale for all crown properties.

[-] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago

The swarm of bots on Youtube just simultaneously creamed themselves.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago

How come no one talks about how the CBC has clearly been under attack by armies of pretend people probably funded by foreign governments for like a decade

[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 11 points 4 months ago

Publicly funded independent journalism helps prevent the spread of misinformation. China and Russia's foreign interference is already working, and they finally have enough leverage that they can try to eliminate the CBC.

The echo chamber of social media algorithms is driven disproportionately by early interaction, and with sophisticated content farms dodging spam detection when they pile on their own posts, Russia and China are able to shift dialogue in their direction of choice. It's a shockingly effective strategy, and it's slowly dismantling Western power and influence.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This has been my suspicion for a long time. I feel like this technology started bearing fruit in a big way in like 2018-2019 when things started going fucking weird. I think Brexit was the first major world-changing victory of these psychological warfare campaigns.

[-] Binette@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

Media like the CBC and the ONF have been a huge part of my childhood. It would be a shame that future generations wouldn't get to experience it.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

I listen and enjoy listening to CBC radio.

This would actually make my day to day life worse and I doubt he would give me a tax break that would be worth it.

[-] CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

There wouldnt be a single dollar tax break on the middle class...

On the rich, on the other hand.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago

Even the carbon tax is only a net loss for the most polluting and usually richest Canadians.

(Well, unless you include lost growth, but at that rate you should include the cost of climate change too, and it's a net gain for almost everyone)

[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

I suppose that anyone that cannot see the similarities between Squinty McProudBoy and trump will be voting for Squinty McProudBoy and his base of white supremacists, fascists, racists, misogynists and assholes.

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[-] Nogami@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

The CBC doesn’t do a perfect job but it’s far better than not having them.

That said it’s often better to look at foreign reporting of your country to get a better perspective.

I like the BBC for that with regards to Canada and either BBC or CBC for the US.

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[-] smokescreen@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

CBC is a mid news outlet, some bad reporting, some good reporting, I can see the benifit of their execs getting a pay cut, but overall is ok.

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