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[-] Nimue@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago

New games are generally shite.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

Games in general are. It's just that the old games that remain in people's minds today have been filtered through time into the ones that either were good or were so bad that their awfulness was hilarious.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago

My laptop can’t run newer games and making a PC that can run them on high is very expensive.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

Same. I stick with older games because I'm priced out. But it's that and nostalgia, though I have found retro games I didn't play as a kid and enjoyed them anyway.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

My laptop can’t run newer games

I tried playing the Neverwinter MMO and it lowered the graphical options automatically; when I raised them to what I felt was normal, something in my PC literally exploded.

[-] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

PS5/Xbox is going through the worst generation of console gaming since NES came out. Box office is in a similar slump. Mostly garbage gameplay that isn't fun, and remakes. Still feels like the PS5 generation hasn't even kicked off.

I have been seriously thinking about going back to just playing Super Nintendo, now that was a good time, don't think there's been any system that brought me as much entertainment since SNES. I should check out ROMhacks and homebrews.

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

I got a PS5 early last year and I was like oh cool, I can finally go through all the PS5 game I missed!

There was like 4.

[-] Facky@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Can't believe you missed every PS5 exclusive

[-] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago

Methinks some people in this comment section didn't watch the video before commenting...

Neither did I, so here's my opinion: I think a loss of confidence is the real issue. Why buy a new game when you don't know if it'll be a buggy mess on launch and those old games are available to play right now.

Look at sales for games legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, where player know they will get a polished experience from day 1. It cost $70 dollars, was pirated before release, and is still a top 10 selling game on the switch despite releasing so late in the switch's life.

Another reason is no more hype. They cancelled E3. Nintendo Power is gone. I only go on games radar for headphones reviews. I hear about most games from streamers nowadays, and then I'm just watching the full gameplay. No hype means no pressure to play early means that game releases go by and people just wait until a sale. Honestly not really a problem for the consumer but I do think it's one of the reasons.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

People are also starting to realise that most of these very expensive games don't truly belong to them anymore. Up to date gaming has become more expensive than it ever has, except most of it is behind a server that can be shut down at a moment's notice. Why pay that much for a something that will be taken away? Will I be able to access my steam library if Steam goes under? When I used to buy a physical Cartrage, it was mine. If I decided I didn't like the game anymore, I could sell it.

You can't do that as often anymore. Nintendo Switch has physical copies still, but most consoles are moving to digital only, and others are locking even physical copies to a single account so that you can't resell. The new Playstation and Xbox have versions of their consoles that are digital only, and I assume Nintendo will follow eventually. And then you have the gaming companies that are trying to turn gaming into a Netflix style subscription based streaming service shudder, and if corporations want it, it will happen in time.

Rental stores aren't a thing any more either. So basically, there are less and less ways the average non-wealthy person can access games. There is a reason why little kids today are all playing free to play mobile garbage these days, because it's the only new games they can at least access without a credit card.

TLDR: Capitalism is destroying all media and art, emulation and piracy based retro gaming is the only thing preserving gaming.

[-] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Honestly I have to disagree. I don't think people care so much if their games truly belong to them. I think a lot of people don't really go back and play games they've already beaten very often. I really think it all comes down to confidence in the companies that make the games. Steam is objectively shitty but gamers still love it even if it going down means that they lose access to their games. It is the de facto game launcher on PCs because valve has a track record of treating their customers well. Everyone has confidence in valve, and by extension steam.

Keep in mind the video says that people are playing games that are on average 7 years old, and if we look at gaming around 2017, we still see gaming with battle passes, microtransactions, streaming, and all other anti-consumer behavior from devs. This really has nothing to do with emulated retro games, and if you consider the average, someone playing a game from 30 years ago Is being balanced out by four people. Playing games released one year ago.

Fully agree on capitalism destroying art and media though, absolutely true.

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Who is locking physical games to one console? There was a rescinded plan about that with the Xbox One, but that’s the last I’ve heard of it.

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Why buy a new game when you don't know if it'll be a buggy mess on launch and those old games are available to play right now.

Yeah, like, I'm so sick of (particularly singleplayer or mostly singleplayer) games releasing and then needing a dozen patches to be in something close to a "final" state. Are companies just not playtesting anymore or what? I get it if there's growing pains from not anticipating server loads, and maybe you need to do some adjustments if some very creative players find an overpowered strategy and it has to be nerfed, but there's numerous times where I see issues that are patched and just go "There's no way that you wouldn't have found this if you'd used a small amount of your massive company profits to pay for a bunch of playtesters to go try and break the game and see if the balance is about right."

I think I'm also just generally not a fan of the Early Access model of continuously releasing new updates. I understand all the reasons why they do this, but I'm very much somebody who enjoys buying a game and knowing that it is a full, complete experience which will not change and update while I'm playing it or after I'm done. Just a discrete thing I can pick up, play for a while, and then put down and be satisfied that there won't be an update or DLC in a few months that adds fishing and 10 new bosses or whatever. I can put it out of my mind and not have to track a bunch of update release dates and play another game. No FOMO, just enjoying my time off.

It doesn't help my mind to juggle caring about like a dozen games at once. Like "Okay, so this game will release in August, then there's an update to this other game in early September. Then there's the full release of this game in late September after five years of Early Access. Then this DLC comes out in mid-October, and my friends will probably want to play this with me in late October..." I could do all that with a dozen games, or I could just play an older game like Bloodborne and know exactly what I'm getting myself into with zero surprises or updates or DLCs or battlepasses or full releases or definitive editions to care about.

I'm honestly really excited to see what a socialist video gaming industry would look like. I hope it looks like relatively fewer games released per year due to no crunch time, but the games are very high-quality, have many fewer problems, don't have exploitative practices like microtransactions, have more meaningful content, etc. I also hope that copyright for many current games is cast aside so we can get True Remasters of current and old games with all the features that were ditched due to time or resource constraints. Instead of having individuals or very small teams jankily modding things into games to fix some of the features, they would be re-developed in a more official sense. Kinda like what Bluepoint did with Demon Souls, but like five times as ambitious.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I dunno maybe something to do with the economy being shit, and old games being great?

[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

because they slap. morrowind, FNV, m&b warband, halo 2. what new games have aura like these?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago
[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

it took them forever to release an unfinished game. and it still needs work 4 years after the early access release, 2 years after official release

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

At least they scammed the turkish government in the process.

[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago
[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

because newer games are made even more for the enjoyment of shareholders than consumers like everything as capitalism advances

[-] Des@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

i just obsessively play the same few games endlessly. mod them different so it's like a new experience

once im done with my last crazy high powered xenocult rimworld game i think im going to get back into original kerbal space program

supposedly there's a newish mod that allows completely procedural star systems and it looks really good. so completely random challenges i'll have to math it all out myself and launch probes ahead of manned missions and there won't be any wikis i can look at

both these games are what 10+ years old now??

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago

Lots of chuds in the YT comments talking about the politicals being forced into games now and how back in the day we just had hidden gems like The Witcher 3.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 months ago

Back in the day

Witcher 3

This is bait. It worked. Slight rise in blood pressure achieved

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Witcher 3 was anything but a "hidden gem", the series had a huge fan base already from the first two games. It was expected to be a gem and turned out to be one.

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago
[-] lurkerlady@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

they are expensive to run and they dont release the full game anymore, 5 years from release date you can have a good experience if you pay for 200 dollars worth of dlc

[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago

There's too much content, we must stop making more for at least a few years

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

They’re either very cheap or free. Bootlegs also sell very well because of this. I have a number of bootleg consoles with 16-bit era games packed into them

[-] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago
[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

True, but most people here (including me) don’t know how to pirate or own a pc. Is there a way to do it on smartphones or tablets?

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Android APKs and emulators saved my life

What do you want to pirate on a smartphone?

[-] Mousy@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago
  • Newer triple aaa games being empty and broken skinner boxes

  • Emulation becoming very user friendly and accurate to the original console

  • Nostalgia for older games that people played during their childhood

  • A lot of people's hardware can't keep up with the demands of newer games

[-] Titou@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

Because new games are shit, the devs only focuses on graphisms.

[-] sgtlion@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Though people have made bad games since forever, what I do think the modern industry lacks is random passionate nerds getting the chance to have a whole studio to develop their super weird niche idea into a game.

Ye olden times had a lot of well funded flops from that approach, but also some real winners.

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Because the new ones mostly suck ass.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

End of 2007 and 2008 was the golden years of gaming and every year since has just been steadily going down hill.

It's not just nostalgia. Google the games that released in 2007-2008. All classics that changed the industry

Edit: just googled it and 2009 also slapped

[-] Gorb@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A fun game is still a fun game regardless how old it is. New games cost a lot and old games are cheap/free. I also disagree with the sentiment of comments on this post or in general saying modern gaming is terrible and has no good releases thats simply false. Idk where the sentiment comes from tbh but there's more games in the world than the latest competitive shooter or open world slop.

In my view games have never been better. Anyone who's looking at the past through rose coloured glasses pls go play the generic UE3 slop from the xbox 360 era and get back to me on how great they are

[-] sgtlion@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Maybe I'm just old but the Xbox 360 era is also modern gaming in my eyes

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