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Even the Ukrainians are getting tired, I'm definitely glad the war will go on because of Western libs and their hero Zelenskyyyy 
🇺🇦 I consent
🇷🇺 I consent
🇺🇸 Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
and don't forget 
Actually I'm the british ghoul in chief now
Now, let's see those numbers for people living in the war zone, i.e. ones most affected by this.
Well they already voted to join the Russian Federation
I'm gonna be real, the idea that a vote held in the middle of a warzone held by a hostile power while thousands flee and are displaced should be viewed as accurately representing some kind of democratic will is spurious at best.
You're referring to the votes to join the RF that happened after the territories already voted to secede from Ukraine, right? Majority ethnic Russian areas voting to join Russia after being attacked for years by openly Nazi-identifying Ukrainian military units, voting to secede, and requesting Russian military assistance to protect their sovereignty and right to self-determination doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me. I'm sure there were some people living there that would have preferred to continue watching their neighbors get murdered by men wearing swastikas, but I don't have any trouble believing the vote wasn't close. I'm no UN election observer, but if you asked me which outcome was more likely to be representative of a general democratic will of the majority of residents between that and say, any US presidential election in my lifetime, I don't have any question about which I'd pick.
The Ukrainians that don't want to "give up territory" aren't the Ukrainians that actually live in the territory in question: they're the Ukrainians that wanted to continue killing the Ukrainians that lived in those territories for not being "Ukrainian" (i.e. White) enough.
Do no people who weren't in Russia-controlled territories live in the war zone? I am confused.
one area polled has people open to conceding land in the majority, and even furthest from fighting the “to the last ukrainian” support tops out at 60% compared to 87% one year ago. team meat grinder is on the way out
You can clearly see recruiter kidnap vans moving west on that graph.
If trend has continued then it would be 38-40% now.
In 4-5months from now it would be 50%. Possibly before November.
Pretty staggering to see how much the blue bar has gone down too.
Half of that is people dead on the frontlines while the other half is people realising they don't want their family sent to the meat grinder.
As the expansion of the people at risk of being sent to the front grows, support goes down.
Support is contingent upon not being a participant.
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