833

USA's Control of Internet Speech (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by Confidant6198@lemmy.ml to c/comics@lemmy.ml

91 comments fedilink hide all child comments

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[+] parpol@programming.dev 78 points 3 months ago

[deleted]

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 25 points 3 months ago

E2e is not yet illegal, is it for you?

[-] LowleeKun@feddit.org 23 points 3 months ago

Not yet, but not for a lack of politicians trying. So far the european court has done its job and also some countries have stalled.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

That would be the next law I‘ll brake on daily basis 😂 (smoking weed is the only one right now)

[-] LowleeKun@feddit.org 8 points 3 months ago

Nothing wrong with that

Luckely legal where i live, since april first 🥹

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

Hey there german friend 😄 it is still illegal in switzerland but police is still way more chill in switzerland. I was in Freiburg at a Festival and on the way there police stopped is and my girlfriend had to undress completely because their doggo smelled our empty grinder.. I had the weed in my backpack sealed so doggo did not find that. My girlfriend asked what they would do if they find weed, the police answered, that they do not know what they would do.

Luckily at the festival, everything was as chill as in Switzerland, like they find the weed at the gate, let you keep it and let you in. Smoking there was no problem either.

One sad point is, that I did not find any ACID at the festival 😂 but I guess that is a me problem

[-] LowleeKun@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

Happy to hear that they are chill, at that point it would make sense to legalize. Alteast having home growing and consumption being legal is something that is hard to argue against. I bet it is going to get much better for us in the future (hopium, i know)🤞

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

🙌🏻 I be so too 😇 I guess as soon as the boomer are overruled by the new generation, there is nothing stopping the legalisation 🥳

[-] ZarkleFarkle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

I think the Online Safety Act recently passed in the UK does technically make proper encryption illegal. Chat platforms are supposed to comply when UK law enforcement asks for logs, and it says something about them needing to be "readable".

This probably mainly just means they should be able to use the backdoors in major platforms. It would be very difficult for them to go after every obscure xmpp provider or whatever, and so far they haven't.

The law says lots of other dumb and quite dystopian stuff like policies every "social media platform" has to follow, which seem to really misunderstand how the internet works. The UK would need to block itself off from most of the internet for any of this to work. One of the main chat platforms I use is just a computer in some German tech enthusiast's house (I think).

Thankfully, Labour got into power in the recent election instead of Conservatives. Their candidate was often called a "Tory with a red tie" since he didn't believe in as serious left-wing policies as other, failed Labour candidates like Jeremy Corbyn. The point though is that hopefully they won't be dropping many more laws like the "Online Safety" ("Ahhh, protect the children because any website can have porn D:") Act.

Ofcom is supposedly in the stages of putting the law into practice though. I hope nothing extreme happens to the UK, but it all sounds pretty horrible to me.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Yea, I wonder what they would do against my self hosted matrix server behind VPN and reverse proxy 🤔

[-] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago

don’t have backdoors

I've got bad news for you about hardware...

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

From having lived in several European countries I get the impression that the Press being pretty much just partisan Propaganda generally it's not as common as it seems to in the USbe, with the notable exception of Britain (were it's pretty bad all around except the Private Eye which is actually a satirical magazine).

That said, the way for example Orban entrenched his control of Hungary was by controlling the Press.

This might be at least partly why in Europe the Far Right rose outside mainstream parties but in the US it rose inside them (and, curiously, in the UK it started outside, then was picked up by one of the mainstream parties at which point it really took off).

[-] xilliah@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Even if it is made law, it still require legal determination by a competent authority. Such a law can simply be considered ultra vires, since it is not constitutional in a democracy.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 months ago

Wake up babe, new excuse just dropped: [enemy nation of the week] bots & trolls

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They sell so much of this National Security wrapping paper, I'm surprised it never runs out. Remember when they wrapped the Iraq war with it?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

But muh freedom fries

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 months ago

Don't forget anti-China

load more comments (13 replies)

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

I was hoping Everett True would show up and punch out both of them.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

Their Authoritarian Oppression, our National Security concerns.

[-] sentientity@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

For real though.

[-] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Just ignore the fact that the actual technological capacity to accomplish this is being steadily built and deployed behind the curtain while you argue over who gets to control who and how.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Might be more accurate if they traded places.

[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Yarrr, let's make it both.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They need to add a third wrapper called "anti semitism"

load more comments

this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2024

833 points (97.1% liked)

Comics

5825 readers

115 users here now

This is a community for everything comics related! A place for all comics fans.

Rules:

1- Do not violate lemmy.ml site-wide rules

2- Be civil.

3- If you are going to post NSFW content that doesn't violate the lemmy.ml site-wide rules, please mark it as NSFW and add a content warning (CW). This includes content that shows the killing of people and or animals, gore, content that talks about suicide or shows suicide, content that talks about sexual assault, etc. Please use your best judgement. We want to keep this space safe for all our comic lovers.

4- No Zionism or Hasbara apologia of any kind. We stand with Palestine 🇵🇸 . Zionists will be banned on sight.

5- The moderation team reserves the right to remove any post or comments that it deems a necessary for the well-being and safety of the members of this community, and same goes with temporarily or permanently banning any user.

Guidelines:

If possible, give us your sources.
If possible, credit creators of each comics in the title or body of your post. If you are the creator, please credit yourself. A simple “- Me” would suffice.
In general terms, write in body of your post as much information as possible (dates, creators, editors, links).
If you found the image on the web, it is encouraged to put the direct link to the image in the ‘Link’ field when creating a post, instead of uploading the image to Lemmy. Direct links usually end in .jpg, .png, etc.
One post by topic.

founded 4 years ago

MODERATORS

Ady@lemmy.ml

Confidant6198@lemmy.ml

VictimOfAmerikkka@lemmygrad.ml

yogthos@lemmy.ml