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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 219 points 10 months ago

Isn't claiming territory that doesn't belong to you as yours the definition of imperialism?

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 98 points 10 months ago

They get around this by using a version of Lenin's definition of imperialism. Lenin characterised imperialism as, in very simple terms, the way that powerful capitalist countries exploit poorer countries (or straight up colonies, especially considering the time in which Lenin was writing). Of course they use a version of this that specifically defines it as just literally anything the countries they don't like do, leading to ProleWiki insisting that Russia is not imperialist but Liechtenstein is

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

Similarly to how 'reactionary' just means 'bad' to these people. For the record a 'reactionary' is somebody who wants to restore a previous status quo. It's not inherently good or bad.

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 25 points 10 months ago

It all starts with a flag.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 136 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

By this logic, Australia, America, India and a ton of other countries are still part of England.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 99 points 10 months ago

"No, not like that!" - tankies

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wait till Portugal and Spain get hold of this.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 52 points 10 months ago

Most of England belongs to Rome!

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 19 points 10 months ago

Except for that northern bit across the wall.

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[-] Chivera@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago

And Skyrim belongs to the Nords!

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[-] Fetus@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

Calling it North Korea and not the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

[-] BigRedUndead@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure you mean “Best Korea”

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[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 53 points 10 months ago
  • USA belongs to Great Britain
  • England and France belongs to the Roman empire
  • Poland belongs to Prussia
[-] mecfs@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

England belongs to roman empire too.

Oh wait, does that mean US belongs to the roman empire all along?

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

No countries are real. Everything belongs to everyone because our ancestors were there first.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 49 points 10 months ago

The US belongs to the UK. But you can keep the Bible belt, we don't want that bit.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 49 points 10 months ago

There's no possible way this isn't bait.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

I wish to return to the time where I could have agreed with you

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

if you don't support imperialism, you're supporting imperialism

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 44 points 10 months ago

But Russia officially belongs to Mongolia

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[-] AShadyRaven@lemmy.zip 40 points 10 months ago

My favorite brand of rage is the kind i feel when someone says a bunch of evil things and then follows it with "if you disagree, youre the evil one"

[-] flerp@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

These countries that want to be free and independent should be owned by another country that wants to own them and if you disagree you support imperialism... mind-boggling

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago

It's a neat little trick how fascists say things that are the exact opposite of objective reality, and don't see the irony.

[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

It's part of the playbook. That's his you eliminate the possibility of a good criticism, everything becomes spiderman meme

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[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

TIL there are "'correct" .ml communities.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago

Well there sure as hell are "incorrect" ones, apparently.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 25 points 10 months ago

!opensource@lemmy.ml and other open source projects are decent

As always, !linux@programming.dev and !opensource@programming.dev are here as alternatives

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[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Isn't people 'belonging' someone else a definition of slavery?

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[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

FWIW, the full list of disputed territories is much longer than you think. Basically, every map in existence is also picking sides whether they know it or not; a realization I find chilling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Within Russia, "imperialism" means "opposition of Russian imperialism", and "fascism" is just used as "opposition of not supporting the Russian government".

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[-] cheddar@programming.dev 32 points 10 months ago

POV: you wrote anything anywhere and you don't have hexabear/lemmygrad/lemmyml blocked.

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago
[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Louisiana (Kansas, Missouri, Dakotas, Minnesota) belongs to France! 🇫🇷

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[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Imagine looking at millions of people living in the relatively prosperous democracy of South Korea and believing that all these people belong as chattel slaves of a monarch who starves his people and throws entire families into concentration camps to die if one member dares to speak out. Every regime supported here is a fascist dictator.

[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

"If you don't support the rights of these imperialistic fascist regimes to do imperialistic and fascist things then you are an imperialist and a fascist."

Yeah okay. Sure.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Did they provide any justification for the claim? Or is it just the usual "because I said so"?

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago
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[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

huh? isnt china the top imperialist in the list? who gained more land in the last decade? pfff lemmygrads are a special kind of stupid.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago

There are only wrong .ml communities

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[-] crawancon@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago

is this the hexbear manifestó

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[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago

I can’t believe they would grandstand like that and leave out “America belongs to the natives”. Pretty weird.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Do they even know what "imperialism" means?

[-] VitaminF@feddit.org 19 points 10 months ago

Their definition of imperialism is the USA, and only the USA.

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