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On Wednesday evening, Ukrainian MP Oleksiy Honcharenko said the Ukrainian army had established control over the Sudzha gas hub - a major gas facility involved in the transit of natural gas from Russia to the EU via Ukraine, which has continued despite the war. It is the only point of entry for Russian gas into the EU. 

Although this has not been verified by the BBC, Mr Honcharenko's comment was the first confirmation of an incursion into Russian territory by a Ukrainian official. Kyiv had previously not commented on reports of a cross-border attack.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 304 points 3 months ago

Earlier, President Vladimir Putin accused Ukraine of launching a "major provocation" 

How dare they provoke the people who have been relentlessly attacking their country for two and a half years.

[-] Slotos@feddit.nl 160 points 3 months ago

Ten and a half. And that’s only if we discount Tuzla island dispute and continuous attempts to take control of politics and economy.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

Euromaiden was in 2013 somehow. How has it been that long

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago

I'll never forget watching the live feed almost every night for weeks. Then Simon reporting from the front during the Russian invasion for Vice.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

I remember a video interview with a Ukrainian soldier and a bomb fell near them, while still smoking a cigarette he just casually picks up a piece of hot shrapnel to show the camera and drops it like he was mildly annoyed about being interrupted.

[-] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 59 points 3 months ago

Fucking Russian psychos use the majority of their missiles on civilian targets and now suddenly Putin has a problem with (alleged! I frankly don't believe it for one second) “indiscriminate shooting from various types of weapons, including missiles, at civilian buildings, residential buildings, and ambulances.”

[-] ours@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

This is mobile warfare with a veteran, armored brigade using a mix of latest and greatest Western gear. If they had trouble before, this is going to be a nightmare for them. Oh and those F-16s just got into service.

[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 3 months ago

Rules for thee but not for me

[-] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago

Bullies always go cry to the teacher when someone hits back

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 103 points 3 months ago

Fuck russia.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 76 points 3 months ago

It's just a military exercise. Don't worry ruzzians. All is going to be fine.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 32 points 3 months ago

Special military operation.

Nothing to worry about.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 72 points 3 months ago

War is horrific in many ways, and in most cases its the innocent who suffer. Lets keep that in mind.

Saying that - Fucking lol. You fucked around, time to find out.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 69 points 3 months ago

The acting regional governor, Alexei Smirnov

Come on. That's a made up name.

The Governor of Texas isn't "John Hamburger".

[-] Steve@startrek.website 20 points 3 months ago

Professional racing driver Dick Trickle would like a word with you

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

80s SF Giants player Dick Burns would, as well.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago

What about the Nazi-sponsored English motor-racing legend, Dick Seaman.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Leave Mr hamburger alone!

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[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 64 points 3 months ago

Ukraine should create a referendum to annex the entire Kursk region. Russia says it's legal to do so.

[-] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 months ago

Russia needs to cede that territory in the interests of peace.

[-] mtpender@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

RuZZia: [Invades Ukraine]

Ukraine: [UNO reverse card]

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I heard they did a vote and the population of Kursk overwhelmingly voted to join Ukraine nod nod

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

152% of the residents support the annexation so...

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

This will be interesting. Either Putin goes back on his word and mobilizes more people into his special military operations to bolster the defenses. Or he seems weak for allowing Russia to be invaded.

Good dilemma.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Putin goes back on his word and mobilizes more people into his special military operations to bolster the defenses

This would be easy to spin, it's no longer a special operation it's become a war of survival against the Ukrainian Nazis and their gay Jewish NATO allies, the very thing our lord and saviour Putin was trying to prevent with the special operation!

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Sure it could be.. but still... It would require moscovites to be drafted.. and that would make the whole war more real for them. I'd imagine Ukraine would then spend some extra attention to these battalions, to drive the point home.

[-] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 months ago
[-] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 months ago

Russian ultranationalists have gone on vacation until further notice.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

I wonder how many operatives they're going to sneak into the country through this raid to do longer term damage via reconnaissance and sabotage. Plenty of opportunity with all this chaos and the ability to bring a large amount of supplies to stash things.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

I imagine the distraction is the main goal.

Looking at the map:

  • Russia tried to stretch Ukraine with a distraction near Kharkiv
  • so now Ukraine is trying to stretch Russia with a distraction yet further north

I don’t know what value that region may have to the war effort if either side but this initial attack seemed well targeted

It’ll be interesting to see Europe’s reactions when they turn off the gas flow, and force Europe to stop being hypocrites

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[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Weirder than that, it can't be easily bombed without permanently disabling Russia's ability to earn revenue. If Ukraine just sits on it they can hold Russia economically hostage indefinitely.

[-] pop@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

Finally some excellent development. Time to Make Putin into Poutine.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago

Why would they want to control the gas facility?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 67 points 3 months ago

It is the only point of entry for Russian gas into the EU.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

But that gas goes through Ukraine. They could have stopped it at any time.

[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 months ago

Cut off tail of snake and it will eventually grow back. Cut off head of snake and it cannot grow back.

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Everybody beheading snakes until the octopus arrives.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah then you just remove the beak

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

?

By blowing it up and causing an ecological disaster in their own country?

There should be cut off valves where they could have done it safely, but this is Russian built, they used positive power coefficients on their nuclear power plants...

You can't count on common sense safety measures.

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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 months ago

Sabotaging a gas line does a lot to damage your own position because natural gas is VERY toxic. Controlling the source though is ALL power

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[-] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago

That's a direct pipeline, it seems. Goes straight to the EU.

There's a different pipeline (maybe several, not sure) going through Ukraine.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Sabotage all the metering, etc. and let Ukraine and EU receive as much as they can for free.

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[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If they cut it off they remove the one entry point of gas into the EU crippling the export.

Im sure the EU wouldnt be very happy either but they diversified over the last 2 years away from russian gas.

On the other hand holding it also opens the door for concessions from Russia.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 24 points 3 months ago

Most of the EU is fine with it, it's basically just the governments of Hungary and Slovakia throwing a hissy fit

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago

Fucking Wah Wah.

Those countries had a chance to be on the right side of history, and they screwed the pooch. Enjoy freezing in a couple of months.

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