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[-] Apthianos@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

I know you are saying that a high calcium diet and no water is what caused the kidney stone but most kidney stones are actually caused by high oxalates mostly from plants. Higher calcium in the diet can actually help prevent kidney stone formation. https://www.kidney.org/kidney-topics/calcium-oxalate-stones https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6459305/

[-] PhotatoMan@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 months ago

I’m trying to pass a kidney stone right now, no fun at all. Thanks for the link!

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've heard if you squeeze really hard you can turn it into a diamond.

Seriously though sorry to hear about your pain but this to shall pass.

[-] PhotatoMan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

I'll try that, Debeers need some competition.

Thanks man, I needed a laugh!

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Glad to help

[-] Sgarcnl@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I just started getting pains in the kidney after switching to mostly salads in meals. Where oxalates?

[-] Apthianos@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

https://www.livestrong.com/article/436995-foods-with-high-oxalate-uric-acid/

I was told to not eliminate these things in the diet completely since they can be healthy for you. Just be aware they are high in oxalates and dont make them huge staples in your diet. Making sure you get enough calcium when eating them should help stop the kidney stone formation since it helps prevent absorption of the oxalates. Some of the foods high in oxalates have high calcium levels so they aren't as bad.

[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I don't think that stones form so quickly. Maybe it's time to get some tests?

[-] stoned_ape@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

I have gotten kidney stones frequently since 2006

Cut out tea, nuts, potatoes, chocolate, whole grains, carrots, spinach, and everything else. Keep my sodium around 1500mg/day

I still form them prolifically

I had a 2cm stone back in March that they tried blasting and ended up getting chunks of the stone stuck between the stent and the wall of my ureter. After keeping the stent in for 3 months my urologist gave up and another one picked me up. When he went in to laser the stones, he had to laser chunks that had adhered to the stent before he could get it out

They shockwaved my other side last month and got the newer stent out and had my follow up today and there's two more little ones on the left side already forming up

Next step is an endocrinologist

"Some guys have all the luck" - Rod Stewart

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

but have you tried yoga

[-] stoned_ape@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Actually yes lol I do DDP Yoga

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago

Combine it with meditation and you'll cure literally everything. If you're still symptomatic, you're doing it wrong, but I'll disappear as soon as you ask me how.

Can you tell I have a chronic illness?

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago

What's your oxalate and protein intake like?

[-] stoned_ape@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Usually less than 100g a day for protein. I stay as far away from oxalates as possible I would be surprised if I have 10mg/day. I know 40mg/day is considered low oxalate.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago

Unlucky, hope you work it out. Sounds painful af

[-] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Odd recommendation from a friend’s doctor after said friend passed a stone: drink a beer a day. He said lemons helped (lemonade, lemons in tea) but the beer was 100% from what the doc had seen. And no, I don’t know why or what kind.

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

have you tried riding a roller coaster?

seriously

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

don't insult your kidneys or your liver they got your back when no one else does

[-] Aquilae@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

They really are our Last Hero ✌️😔

[-] numbermess@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago

My doctor usually prescribes Oxycodone when I have a stone/stones, but I'm just not an opiate guy. It makes me feel more sweaty and nauseous and despair. There is a prescription NSAID called Ketorlac that works much better for this kind of thing in my opinion. One of the effects of long term use is kidney damage, so you need to take enough but not too much for too long. FYI if you're looking for something to think about next time you get one.

I also found a wireless TENS unit called a Hollywog that just sticks to your back. It's a little plate and doesn't have any external wires. It hangs on by the electrode pads and you control it with a phone app over Bluetooth. This thing is great to use while your back is winding and wringing and you are stuck in a reloading agony loop. It kind of helps make it possible to focus on something for a minute without being distracted by the pain.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 points 3 months ago

Tens units are THE SHIT.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Me every few years 😔

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 6 points 3 months ago

Maybe change your diet then?

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Nah my kidneys are just fucked actually, they don't process calcium good so a lot of it just sits around until I piss it out. I take meds but they only help so much

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I'm bummed you're being downvoted.

Hi. Human here. I have never had a kidney stone. I have worked in healthcare.

Some people are absolutely just fucked. It's just the luck of the draw. I've seen it a handful of times; a person's diet is completely controlled, they do everything right, and they get fucked anyway.

One person I knew did everything right and had them once a month anyway. I asked him why he was bothering with all the precautions and diet changes and intake rules, and he said, "Because they're the difference between one a month and three a week."

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah the issue I have is genetic and typically presents itself in males around 30 but it started when I was 9. We can't trace it to anyone in my family though but it probably just skipped a few generations. I still do a low sodium diet but with my diuretics I don't really need to worry about it too much. Killing my liver but it is what it is yk. It could certainly be worse