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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Guamer@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

(The Wii U Virtual Console version to be exact)

Edit: Thx for the advice everyone, will keep in mind!

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[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The visible stats for the Casey Bat are misleading.

If you reach max level before the end game, you will have a bad time (this requires obnoxious grinding though, like going out of your way for 1/128 chance item drops and having bad luck).

There is a detailed walkthrough, a full list of item / enemy stats, and TONS of information at starmen.net if you get stuck, but try to play blind the first time and consider going back for 100% after.

[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The visible stats for the Casey Bat are misleading.

How so?

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

casey bat is a late game weapon for ness that has the best damage in the game

you just miss like 3/4 times

[-] 12022081631@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

this is one of those games where the difficulty curve is kind of inverted but the more party members you get the more interesting combat gets. don't snooze on getting ness a full loadout as your first priority when you get into town. you can get a better hat if you find the secret treehouse behind the library. the library also has a "town map" that works in every major town. the cookies and bread rolls you get right at the beginning wont be very helpful for fast healing mid-combat, for that you will need hamburgers. if you played FF3 it would be similar to Tonics/Potions

the "hint man" in every town is also based. $50 is a pretty steep amount of money early on but he literally gives you hints for every major story beat so if you are ever stuck you have a diegetic walkthru to help you figure out what it was you missed

"healing" spell heals status effects, and is directly comparable to the healing "herb" items. might be a bit difficult to parse which groups of status effects each level cures but thats ok. Healing γ has a 75% chance to cure death and Healing Ω has a 100% chance to cure it

the non-damage spells like paralysis, shields, stat change might be hard to use with just ness and paula but once you can keep people alive for a few turns they can help with the more challenging enemies

peaceful rest valley is hard for most people. its also my favorite part of the game now because im a sicko i guess

paula is gonna struggle when you get her. just get her some levels and she'll be aight

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

paula is gonna struggle when you get her. just get her some levels and she'll be aight

Right! KOed party members will not gain exp from a fight, even if they did 99% of the damage. Try not to let the same party member repeatedly get KOed (or revive them before the fight ends, if you have the means) to prevent their development from being stunted.

IIRC, experience won from a fight gets divided among the surviving party members, so this will exacerbate the difference in levels, particularly when you have two party members and the stronger one repeatedly gets "double" points and the weaker, deader one gets zero.

[-] Dominion@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

I haven't played this in a decade but it's my favorite game of all time. The desert sucks a lot because heatstroke is such a punishing status effect. Make sure you get a lot of the items that cure it. Wet towels I think. When you take so much damage in a single hit that it would kill your characters, their hit points literally have to roll all the way down slowly before they will die, if you burn through the menu choices of your characters and nail them with a heal spell that would raise their life to even 1 before the dial rolls all the way down then you can save them from dying. Very handy and saves you lots of revive items and mp. Buy a lot of bottle rockets for Jeff. The biggest tip I could give though is make sure you are playing with the sound cranked. The music and noises in this game are made by one of the most renowned Japanese composers to ever live. I remember the sounds from this game so deeply that it is part of who I am. The runaway fives bus, the sound spot song, the beach song of summers. So many awesome sounds. I envy your new upcoming experience!

[-] btfod@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Try to be patient with the interface and inventory management.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Despite joining throughout the first 1/3 of the game gradually your party members join at lv1 so you'll have to grind em up when you get them. You may need to grind the party in general for a fair game but it's not an extreme amount, the exp you get just playing normal is alllllmost enough but you may wanna grind just a level or two for a smoother time. Read the item descriptions and don't just look at the status changes, additional effects are only viewable in the descriptions. The Casey Bat is an infamous example. Also talk to as many NPCs as possible as often as possible. There's a LOT of dialgoue in this game and it's mostly very charming. Otherwise it's a pretty straightforward playthrough.

[-] btfod@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Also talk to as many NPCs as possible as often as possible. There's a LOT of dialgoue in this game and it's mostly very charming.

Best advice in the thread!

PS - Do you know whose bones are on display here?

The answer is...

spoileryour bones.

My bones.

Bone’s bones.

Bone bone bone.

[-] AFineWayToDie@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Don't be stingy with Psi powers. Magic Butterflies are commonly encountered in dungeons.

Grinding is easier after defeating the boss of a Shining Spot dungeon. The enemies there run from you so it's easier to get surprise attacks and insta-wins.

You can only get the Sword of Kings before defeating the boss of the Stonehenge base. All the monsters in the area vanish once the boss is slain, and the weapon can no longer be obtained. That said, Poo is plenty strong without it - None of the super rare weapons/armour pieces are necessary to complete the game.

Psi Thunder is powerful but often misses. As long as there are at least four enemies remaining, it's guaranteed to hit at least one of them.

Managing your inventory by phone is a pain in the ass. If you visit Tracy at your house, you can swap items in and out of storage at will.

The hardest part of the game is before Paula joins your party. Don't lose heart if the game feels too tough until then.

You don't have to call your mom regularly to prevent homesickness. Homesick happens completely at random, whether you just talked to your mom, or haven't spoken to her for the entire game.

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

You can only get the Sword of Kings before defeating the boss of the Stonehenge base. All the monsters in the area vanish once the boss is slain, and the weapon can no longer be obtained. That said, Poo is plenty strong without it - None of the super rare weapons/armour pieces are necessary to complete the game.

it's also a FUCK to grind, absolutely doable but you gotta wiggle the grinding method. i always get it but i'm not sure it's worth it lol

[-] 12022081631@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

also note if you do decide to grind for the Sword of Kings, chances are you will gain dozens of levels just trying for a CHANCE to get the sword so if powerleveling is in any way not your thing, pay some heed

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

YOU CAN SOFTLOCK YOURSELF IF YOU DON'T HAVE A KEY ITEM ON YOU

keep the pencil eraser and bad key machine on you, just trust me

inventory management is a fuck (your gear is counted towards this) so be aware of what you have (should i eat that cookie i've been carrying around for 10 levels? do i have any items i could use in battle here?)

there are a lot of goofy items, some are useless and there are some that aren't useless at all but seem useless. a ruler is usable to size up your enemy, but it doesn't do anything, meanwhile a broken laser could be fixed by a certain intelligent party member. so keep that in mind and don't be afraid to look up shit.

there are condiments that can be put on food, iirc they're used automatically when you eat something, they're pretty powerful.

your get money from EXP i believe, your dad adds it to your bank account which you can access thru an ATM. you do not need to call your dad to get the money, he just tells you how much he gave you.

bottle rockets are really fucking good, esp the Big variety! save them for tough bosses!

The starmen.net guide is great, probably more in depth, but the classic Nintendo Power players guide from the 90s is pretty comprehensive and goofy and funny. it should be trivial to find a PDF of it

i will edit this or reply to this comment if i think of anything

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

if you take money out of your account via the ATM, and have it on your person, and die, you will lose HALF of it. so only take out what you need.

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

DO NOT DISCARD STUFF WILLY NILLY

there is a dungeon somewhere that has branching paths that require random items, not random random but misc items nonetheless

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

THE HP COUNTER FOR YOUR CHARACTERS ROLLS

you can get off some sick heals because all the damage isn't done at once, all damage in earthbound is technically Damage Over Time (aka DOTs)

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

The waterfall scene is pretty tedious so just take a piss while you wait under it.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

It's okay to look at a guide if you get stuck, there's a couple places where it's a bit moonlogic.

Always use the latest gear, especially weapons, but avoid yoyos and slingshots.

The game expects you to grind a bit at the start, but this tapers off a lot once you have multiple party members.

The biggest places you can get stuck if you happen to do things in an order the game doesn't expect (open if you're stuck in a place for ages):

TwosonGive Apple Kid food and $200, then go to Peaceful Rest Valley and look at the pencil statue, then walk out the cave (go look again if you died), then get his item and continue along that path.

FoursideGive food to the miner in Dusty Dunes, then talk to the theater manager in Fourside, then go back to the mines.

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