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Not too long ago, a Tankie demanded I find a quote of Putin saying the three days thing. As if he had to say it in some sort of press conference for pretty much the entire military leadership of Russia to say similar shit.
Putin technically never said it. Just a lot of his allies and media people did.
Not that it really matters in the end. Russia was quite sure to take the country in less than a week and failed misserably
To be fair, I listened to a lot of military analysts that studied the first few days of the war and Russia was really fucking close to decapitating Kyiv. Ukraine just came in clutch in the crucial moments, Zelensky survived multiple assasination attempts, Ukranian forces prevented the taking of the Hostomel airport, and Ukranian forces were forward deployed (without having being given orders) prevented attacks into the city. Any one of those failed and Russia could have actually taken Kyiv in a couple weeks.
The best story I read about the defence of Hostomel was that UAF was handing out weapons to civilians in order to defend the airport.
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They were not that close, they just drove in from Belarus and dropped some paratroopers with no support. That's a good strategy for losing your best troops.
They also didn't use a few days of bombing to soften up the targets. Ukraine was surprised but all of their equipment was intact. That's like number one in any attack plan.
They basically underestimated the Ukrainians and thought they would just run away. Those paratroopers were very good but they are only scary to local police, not to a trained military. Without heavy support, they were sitting ducks at the airport.
I’d be careful with these analysts, they’re mainly in the self-promoting business so they make up the most dramatic stories to sell themselves to the media.
Michale Kaufman, Dimitri Alperovich, both people who have visited the front and are in contact with Ukraine officials. Center for Urban Warfare Studies, run by someone in the army. And veterans who were there. They are not random youtubers.
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Is it safe to say that Zelensky is a total badass at this point? (And throughout the past 3 years)
And it's also a famously common mistake. WWI initially had a bunch of countries happily go to a quick and decisive little war.
Hell I remember Cheney (or was it rumsfelt) in 2003 talking about how Iraq would be ready for America to pull out within a year.
They'll always be home by Christmas.
Nah, there's leaked emails of FSB feeding Putin the info that they could take Kyiv in 3 days.
Exactly. he didn't have to say it.
The tankies love demanding proof.
And generally they want proof that one specific thing literally happened when that isn't really the issue.
"Oh yeah? Quote Xi Jinping saying he doesn't like being compared to Winnie the Pooh!"
.... dunno if there's a quote of it. but like... Winnie is one of the most heavily censored things in china.
Which is funny. Because Pooh is cute, and aside from being a bit daft, isn't particularly offensive. Now... Erdogan has it bad. he Keeps having to have people arrested for being compared to gollum.
We always have that video of Erdogan getting kicked in the nuts by that horse, at least
I’m gonna need a link on that.
You know. For, uhm, a study on internet censorship.
Also, uhm, anyone know a good AI to change Someone’s voice into a high pitched gollum voice….
…. Asking for a friend….
Right. That's what I'm saying. They demand proof of something that you don't need to bother proving because that specific thing does not matter.
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Bro, there are people in a local groupchat that think the great leap forward was a good thing and are self-proclaimed history buffs obsessed with the years 1939-1945, specifically in Russia and China.
They harken back to it as a better time, not realizing the irony of it while being a queer American. It's exquisitely painful to watch 💀
I always confront those people with "and what do you think would happen to YOU in such a place? History doesn't think it will be good" but then they double down or make some mental gymnastic leap to why it's okay.
Surely the leopards won't eat THEIR face.
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And then proof does not come from a Tankie Wiki or a blatant APT run website - "lol fucking fake disinfor libtard".
It's not like they'll believe it anyway.
Sometimes of the most trivial things.
A conservative once asked me for proof that bikes have a lower co2 manufacturing footprint than a car. It's funny how they tend to share tactics.
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Sea lions gotta sealion.
Sea lioning, for those curious what it's called.
I had no idea it had a name. Good to know.
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Didn't they March in with victory day parade attire in their backpacks instead of a second round of ammunition, or rations?
Said or unsaid, even if the war was going exactly as planned, it's a shit war that's executed poorly and will destroy the Russian economy and likely end up losing everything they took, even Crimea.
If all the joint chiefs and secretaries of [thing] said "we will be marching in Ottowa in 3 days" it really doesn't matter if the president said it. Because even if he hasn't said it in a press conference to the world, he most certainly agrees with the people who DO think it's a slam dunk.
I'm sure anything you said or linked would have been met with "that's western propaganda" like they're not shaking hands with MAGAts screeching fake news at things they don't like.
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You had control, right?
...RIGHT?
I'm a simple person. I see a post about Ukraine I say Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
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Btw. Shelters are to guard against their own artillery and bombing.
Good. Slava Ukraini
The concrete won't even be cured by the time they need em.
How do you spell "Maginot Line" in Cyrillic?
А ну чики-брики и в дамки!
Couldn't have happened to a nicer dictatorship.
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