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Tuitto

Imagine getting outflacked from the left by a normal green socdem when you call yourself a democratic "socialist"

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[-] outside_enjoyer@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago
[-] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

I remember when people her unironically stanned this woman. Embarrassing.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago

Spicy Stein niko-dunk

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Internal poll numbers in swing states must be looking dire if the democrats are getting AOC to try insult Jill Stein on Twitter...

[-] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

It was on my bingo card

[-] beef_curds@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

AOsi Pelosi

[-] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 9 points 2 months ago

Hot take but.... AOC is absolutely right. What are the greens doing in-between each election cycle? Are they winning down ballot/local elections? Are they organizing demonstrations? No. That loser Jill Stein just runs a failed campaign every 4 years. She's not a comrade, she's a grifter.

Say what you will about AOC or the DSA (I'm sure there is plenty of valid criticism), but at least they win and are executing on a plan to gain power. And while I think similarly of the PSL's electoral strategy as the Greens, at least the PSL does phenomenal organization and activism.

Maybe there's something I'm missing, but I fail to see what material benefits Stein/Greens actually provide. If you're looking for a box to check that isn't D/R, by all means vote for the G. But I don't really see any material reason to donate or promote the Greens.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago

but at least they win and are executing on a plan to gain power

Yeah, gaining power in service of genocide and the persecution of immigrants

But I don't really see any material reason to donate or promote the Greens.

Anything that reduces the power and vote share of the two parties is a material benefit for the working class, even a shitty green party getting a slightly larger share of the vote falls squarely under the harm reduction rubric left libs love to chirp about

Death by a thousand cuts is the best the western left can hope for, and every cut counts

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The theory of voting third party is very simple:

Imagine politicians are all grifters, who want to get power and/or parlay revolving door through some deal making inside congress (imagine). If one party ideologically closest to you forces you to eat shit via spoiling votes, you either have to make policy deals or spend your days fighting battles with them (and not making deals to get board membership at some ngo).

[-] Inui@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Greens haven't gotten a president but they absolutely do campaign and win at the local level. And PSL isn't on the ballot everywhere so they're the next best option. https://www.gpelections.org/greens-in-office/

[-] jackalope@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

Aoc doesn't really build off dsa anymore to be fair. Dsa can't even run it's own budget right. They provided a little extra volunteer power for bernie campaign got a huge influx of people and have been in decline since he dropped out of running for Prez. Dsa is a dead end.

Greens are a waste of time though yes.

[-] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Jill Stien is only doing what the Union wanted her to do

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Back in the day, the Greens could win small seats and get some good stuff through on a State level. They do seem to have faded from public consciousness after the Bush admin, though.

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[-] macabrett@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Why waste so much time attacking someone who you think doesn't have any power? This is the second time I've seen AOC going after Jill Stein this month. Kinda pathetic.

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