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[-] Juice@midwest.social 19 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I just filed a patent for white rice so now all you rice eaters owe me $20

I don't care if that isn't how IP law works, should a thought about that before eating all that rice ya dingus

[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 hours ago

Patent the Japanese government and then proceed to overthrow it in a lawsuit.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 7 hours ago

I'm gonna patent the doohickey and sue the guy who shot Shinzo Abe

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 34 points 13 hours ago

Rooting for Palworld devs, I can think of several examples of prior art.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world -3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Patents don't protect art

Edit: ok, apparently "prior art" might be a phase in US patent law. I don't quite understand what it means. In my country patents protect functions, not expressions of ideas (art)

[-] towerful@programming.dev 40 points 18 hours ago

Worth reading the article, but for the TL:drs and comment readers:

  • A patent attorney has narrowed down the list of potential candidates that could be central to Nintendo's lawsuit against Palworld developer Pocketpair to 28 patents.
  • Out of those, one particular intellectual property describing creature-capture mechanics was labeled as a "killer patent" that would be difficult not to infringe when making a game with monster-taming elements.
  • The said property is part of a recently approved patent family consisting of three more patents, all of which were approved mere weeks before Nintendo and The Pokemon Company sued Pocketpair.
[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago

The riding mounts system seems like the funnier patent

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 hours ago

If this is really Nintendo's strategy, they're going to be hosed, even in Japanese courts. Pokemon isn't even the first game with these mechanics, Dragon Quest (a Square Enix property) and Shin Megami Tensei (an Atlas property) had the mechanic and came out before Pokemon, plus the original Pokemon released over 20 yeares ago.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Don't we tame and capture Yoshi? Heh

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago

By throwing an item at it? Patents are very specific

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

aiming a capture item at a character and releasing it using two inputs, an analog stick and a button press

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If they only were awarded the patents recently, could they even still be used to site patent infringement on a game that was made and released well before Nintendo/Pokemon Co. got the patent(s)? I could have sworn these were NOT retroactive...

[-] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 146 points 23 hours ago

This patent was first submitted in late July 2024 and granted the following month, after Nintendo and The Pokemon Company asked for an accelerated review process.

What the fuck - so, they're claiming infringement on a work that was released before they ever submitted their patent? How is that allowed? Are you telling me a company can wait until another company releases a similar product, then apply for a patent for something they used, then claim infringement? I knew patents were fucked, but I didn't realize they were that fucked.

[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 18 points 16 hours ago

yea that sounds nasty

just don't patent anything, other companies build a product around an unpatented idea, then you patent it and sue them? now their entire product is ruined??

this makes no sense, that would mean the optimal play is to not patent anything until someone else starts doing it

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 25 points 17 hours ago

Not in tbe US it's not.

An existing implementation would be prior art and make it EXTREMELY easy to get the patent invalidated.

[-] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 93 points 22 hours ago

How is that allowed?

Well it's not, you aren't supposed to be able to get a patent for something that already exists. But you know, corruption

[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 52 points 22 hours ago

It’s not. In fact you know how this kind of patent gets invalidated, by pointing out what’s know as prior art. Things that did “this” before that patent was filed. So Palworlds and any other game that involves capturing a creature. This “killer patent” won’t stand up in Court unless the Japanese Court is entirely different than the US and German Courts.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 28 points 21 hours ago

JP courts are corpo jokes and their IP laws are even big clown shoe than US.

I take extra pleasure pirating JP product, fuck the corporate trash

[-] recursive_recursion@programming.dev 71 points 23 hours ago

Nintendo's stagnated and has become a patent troll

as someone that used to be a fan I'm sad as it's hard to be hyped for any of their games when they're widely known for pulling these kinds of scummy tactics time and time again

indies be dammed, it's too much of a risk to make Nintendo-inspired games let alone direct fan-games

[-] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 22 hours ago

Nintendo has always been an underhanded bully. This isn't new.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Ya their patent crap precedes year 2000

[-] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 21 points 22 hours ago

It’s a shame you can’t support nintendo’s developers while excluding their legal department. Oh well, the high seas mean I still get to enjoy what I want to

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

People can't even make a mod that requires the base game to work.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago

Does JP patent law not allow for prior art?

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago
[-] Caesium@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

JP law is fucked. I heard you could get sued for leaving a bad review at a restaurant

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

Libel includes factual statements there

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 9 points 11 hours ago

Japan is also one of the few countries where you aren't assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. If you get arrested for a crime you have tl prove your innocence, which is why Japan has a conviction rate of over 99%

that's pretty fucked if true

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 21 hours ago

Nintendo...not even pirated.

[-] luciole@beehaw.org 3 points 21 hours ago

Ugh, the suspense... When will we even get to know what the accusations are about? Is this Japan or Kafka's Trial?

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