Something as short as "Skywalker" can't be copyrighted. You don't need permission to use a trademark as long as you don't harm the brand or confuse the customer. Since trademarks are often family names, there are a number of unrelated companies that operate under the same name but in a different business.
Sure, but, also, that it's an existing brand is simply irrelevant to a personal name. You don't need to establish that it doesn't damage the brand, it can even directly damage the brand in fact, it still doesn't matter because people aren't products.
Would that not be trademark infringement, if anything?
Loki Skywalker. Jesus, these parents need a smack
Naming children after the mythical figures of a culture is perfectly acceptable.
True and fair, but what do you think when you hear that someone's name is Loki (who isn't from a Scandinavian country)?
"At least they know Thor was, deliberately, a dick"
Private corporations tying the hands of governments with copyright BS? If I want to name my daughter Khaleesi Skywalker Gandalf Bethooven SpaceJam that's none of the governments nor some random corporations business. You can't trademark a fucking name, wtf is this bullshit? You don't get to decide what my name is, and you definitely don't get to hamstring official government agencies in their duties because you're butthurt about my sharing a name with your fictional character. Go fuck yourselves, disney. You slimy litigious fucks, this is why your brand is sinking.
Yeah, Disney is slimy, but for once this isn't their doing. Some paper pusher overstepped their boundaries, that's not on Disney.
This isn't a rule. Some bureaucrat was mistaken.
The same thing happened to another girl a couple weeks ago.
But it is indicitive of the Anglo-Saxon propensity for bootlicking. /Celtposting
The French do their arguably dumber "you can't call that thing you made what I call it even though it's the same recipe, because it wasn't grown where my ancient relatives made it," though. Also France's general xenophobia and owning a bona fide colony way later than the Anglos lol
You're talking about AOP (Appelation d'Origine Protégée / Protected Origin Naming). It makes senses because protected names are place names. You can't call any sparkling wine "champagne". It has to come from Champagne. However, you can call your raw milk cheese "faisselle" even if it wasn't made in Rians, as faisselle isn't a place.
Too bad this kid wasn't born at Skywalker Ranch, then
It is incredibly stupid that the Passport office thinks that this is a copyright issue, but the parents logic is also baffling...
“We understand that Loki’s middle name is copyrighted, but we have no intention of using it for personal gain."
So you gave a child a name that they themselves won't be able to use for "personal gain" when they grow up? Acknowledging the inherent limitations of a name like this just sounds like you willfully set your kid up for failure.
Sounds to me like a case of parents treating their child like an accessory. You're not raising a child, you're raising a future adult. Maybe don't give them a legal name that is also a corporate brand name?
I have a somewhat unusual name, that could me male or female. I really didn't like it growing up. Now i don't care anymore, moat people call me a wrong name anyway that sounds similar. But damn, growing up i just wanted a normal ass name.
My son happens to have the name of one of my favorite comic book characters. However, it's only one of his names, and also it's a name that's real and normal so nobody would think twice about it. I wouldn't name him such an obvious name that is only tired to the one character
He says his son was eventually issued the passport and the family’s vacation is still on.
Sounds to me like someone so the passport office was just being an idiot and when their supervisor looked into it it was resolved.
Government employee makes mistake, other employee corrects mistake, innocent family suffers minor inconvenience. Stay tuned for more.
Omg, i hope they are all ok. This must have been so traumatizing for all involved. I can't even
I think this is the second time this has happened in recent months. I am wondering if the UK bureaucracy has some sort of training about not violating trademarks generally, or some sort of software filter to avoid trademarked terms. Regardless, it seems like a fairly petty annoyance that affects a tiny number of people and can be worked around.
Or hell, maybe it's the same clerk and Gareth from Slough is sticking to his guns.
Man, that's a stupid name. Poor kid permanently tied to a pop culture reference. Two, if the Loki is referring to Marvel. Naming a kid is not an opportunity to express yourself. If you want people to know you like star wars, get a tattoo. Or a bumper sticker. And then I'll judge you. But leave the kid out of it.
How do you think Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Jacob etc feel named after made up Bible characters?
Well, as an atheist I'm not a huge fan of biblical names either
Eh, those names were cultural before the Bible and they'll be cultural after it is forgotten as anything but an academic curiosity.
All names are made up.
If you can find a time machine, the braydens, jaydens, aydens, aidens, alicias, felicias, aleeshas, leEverythings, and every intentionally-misspelled version of a normal name, will be spared a lifetime of "it's like this but spelled like that because my mom sniffed glue" discussions.
That part really gets me. Why the fuck would you name your kid a name you can't fucking spell. And before paperwork is submitted there should be a law that steps in and stops the naming.
It's probably a reference to Marvel. In the Germanic tradition you a) don't name kids directly after gods, though gods may make up part of the name, say Thorgeir, Thor's spear, and b) not after Loki. Between fucking a horse (and getting pregnant) and tying a goat to his balls he really should be off limits.
Between fucking a horse (and getting pregnant) and tying a goat to his balls he really should be off limits.
So much for the tolerant left!!!
No no, both balls, not just the left one
Well my kid Coca-Cola Disney Unilever Squid is fucked.
Brought to you by Carl's Junior
Come on, Flying.... You knew that the minute you named them Coca-Cola Disney Unilever.
I mean can you just imagine the teasing we would have heard on the playground with "cola"? Everyone knows colas are the lowest soft drink.
Isn't copyright just for commercial use? Is that different in Britain?
He says his son was eventually issued the passport and the family’s vacation is still on.
That’s not how copyright works anywhere. Read the Berne convention.
TL;DR: he wasn't denied. He was permitted.
He was later permitted. The delay being one bureacrat somewhere was being a corporate bootlicker, possibly based on some bootlicking regulation but maybe just a blanket misinterpretation of a law.
He [the father] says his son was eventually issued the passport and the family’s vacation is still on.
Sounds like that office doesn't know how their own rules work.
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