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Democrats be like
(lemmy.ml)
This guy tries to push so much propaganda it's making me sick
Leftist agitprop is a good thing.
Sounds like I will be blocking them then
I assure you, my heart is broken 💔
they will wisen up sooner or later, they can't be all down with the evil committed in their name
I too enjoy a good strawman meme intended to deceive cultists and naive boomers.
Leftists are "cultists?"
"Just vote Dems one more election"
"Just one more lane"
Just like more lanes, more dems don't fix the underlying problem.
It doesn't, but for me anyway, the implications of another Trump presidency or Republicans controlling both houses are terrifying.
People can live with some traffic or construction woes as we struggle for a better transportation system.
There are real differences between Republican and Democrat control that will have serious impacts on healthcare, climate change, and the courts, on top of the awful shit that both parties do.
I hate that I'm voting the way I am because I'm more scared of one candidate than the other, but each year is crucial for climate change, and 4 years of a gutted EPA is reeeeeeaaaaallllly bad.
And the Dems will not save us. They will not do what is necessary, ever, because they are funded by similar to even the same groups.
If the Dems will not and cannot save us, if we have a gaping bullet wound and all they can offer is a wet band-aid, then we must find another solution.
Sure, they're not some savior, but they won't gut the EPA, the might not replace Laila Khan, they won't continue to fill the courts with extremely right-wing judges which will take decades to overcome, they might be able to replace Chevron deference with legislation, and they might be able to put some protections into place for abortion access and healthcare for trans people.
Our voting system is first past the post which means there are only two political parties, Republican or Democrat. If you happen to like the Republican or Democrat congratulations you get to actually vote for someone. For the rest of us our only option is voting against someone. If you hate the Republican more vote Democrat. If you hate the Democrat more vote Republican. If you don't actually care whether the Democrat or Republican wins you can abstain by either staying home or voting 3rd party, the outcome is identical either way.
If you don't like this there is exactly one solution and that's supporting efforts to get rid of first past the post voting, anything else is useless.
If the Dems will not and cannot save us, if we have a gaping bullet wound and all they can offer is a wet band-aid, then we must find another solution.
I'll take the wet bandaid over the guy reloading to finish the job thank you very much.
Our voting system is first past the post which means there are only two political parties, Republican or Democrat.
Wrong.
If you happen to like the Republican or Democrat congratulations you get to actually vote for someone.
You'd also be a genocidal demon.
For the rest of us our only option is voting against someone.
Yep, hence why it's important to vote for Greens or PSL.
If you hate the Republican more vote Democrat. If you hate the Democrat more vote Republican.
Neither are acceptable for Humanity.
If you don't actually care whether the Democrat or Republican wins you can abstain by either staying home or voting 3rd party, the outcome is identical either way.
Liberals will work themselves into logical fallacies in order to justify their own votes for genocidal regimes.
If you don't like this there is exactly one solution and that's supporting efforts to get rid of first past the post voting, anything else is useless.
I agree, we need a revolution. Electoralism is useless.
I'll take the wet bandaid over the guy reloading to finish the job thank you very much.
And you'll be dead in the same amount of time.
Gotcha so you're abstaining this election. That's fine and your choice not to vote, but it also means you don't get to complain if Trump wins (or Harris for that matter).
As long as we have first past the post, we will never have a 3rd party candidate win.
And you'll be dead in the same amount of time.
If you honestly believe Harris would do as much damage to this country as Trump would, you're either one of the dumbest people I've ever met and there's nothing more to say, or you just woke up from a coma that started in 2016 and haven't caught up on anything that happened since then.
Gotcha so you're abstaining this election. That's fine and your choice not to vote, but it also means you don't get to complain if Trump wins (or Harris for that matter).
I absolutely get to complain if either of those genocidal monsters win, I will be voting but not for either of them.
As long as we have first past the post, we will never have a 3rd party candidate win.
With liberals like you? Sadly, you might be right.
If you honestly believe Harris would do as much damage to this country as Trump would
And the entire Global South that the US razes for profits, the US is the world's largest Empire.
you're either one of the dumbest people I've ever met and there's nothing more to say, or you just woke up from a coma that started in 2016 and haven't caught up on anything that happened since then.
Neither, I'm fully aware of what awful monsters both Harris and Trump are.
Meanwhile the other option is to blow up all the roads with zero plans on what or how to replace them.
There are plans 👍
Oh? You got a concept?
Not just a concept, there are books and examples of Socialism around the world.
So what's your suggestion?
Their suggestion, as the Russian trolls endorse, is to vote for anyone except Harris.
Are the Russian Trolls in the room with us?
Yes, just as Muslim activist groups and Palestinians have been suggesting, I will be voting for PSL.
You're also ignoring the bit where I said revolution is necessary.
Are the Russian Trolls in the room with us? Probably...
If you don't like the FPTP voting, do something about that. If you don't like voting for the lesser of two evils, do something about it besides waiting until that is the only choice.
- Fact 1: Right now, your only choice is to vote for the lesser of the two evils, unless you want to help the worse of two evils.
- Fact 2: Harris is, by a very large margin, the lesser of the two evils.
- Fact 3: Your 'messaging' is helping Trump
Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of "the Russian trolls" is to do anything possible to diminish support for Harris either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are "on message" with those who would choose to see Trump win.
If you don't like the FPTP voting, do something about that. If you don't like voting for the lesser of two evils, do something about it besides waiting until that is the only choice.
The "lesser evils" are the Greens and PSL, neither is perfect but both are miles ahead of the current genocidal regime and the other genocidal party. Genocide is a red line. As well as that, I advocate for joining Leftist parties like PSL and FRSO, organizing outside the electoral system.
- Fact 1: Right now, your only choice is to vote for the lesser of the two evils, unless you want to help the worse of two evils.
They are both unacceptable evil, period. They both support genocide, and they both are gearing up for WW3 with the PRC, and neither is doing what needs to be done for Climate Change. The only peaceful method of saving humanity is pushing repeatedly for the 1% chance of a third party winning, otherwise revolution is necessary anyways.
- Fact 2: Harris is, by a very large margin, the lesser of the two evils.
Fucking lmao. No, she isn't, she's just a more likeable face of Empire.
- Fact 3: Your 'messaging' is helping Trump
No it isn't, Harris' dedication to genocide, Imperialism, and failure to meaningfully manage climate change is helping Trump. Your messaging is helping genocide and Imperialism.
Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of "the Russian trolls" is to do anything possible to diminish support for Harris either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are "on message" with those who would choose to see Trump win.
Do with the facts what you will, but know that the messaging of the US State Department is to do anything possible to diminish support for anyone other than Harris and Trump either directly or indirectly. Like it or not, you are "on message" with those who would choose to see genocide, Imperialism, climate catastrophe, and World War 3.
The “lesser evils” are the Greens and PSL
Don't be obtuse. Either the Democrat or the Republican is going to win. Those are the only two you get to choose from at the moment. You have to start long before the general election if you want to change that reality.
They are both unacceptable evil, period. T
Then don't vote at all or vote third party, but know that by doing so you've supported Trump. You will be personally responsible for Trump winning. Sleep tight.
Don't bother replying if you are just going to continue parroting the Russian propaganda.
Don't be obtuse. Either the Democrat or the Republican is going to win. Those are the only two you get to choose from at the moment. You have to start long before the general election if you want to change that reality.
I have started long before, as have other Leftists. Liberals will fight to the death to defend the status quo, to the point of supporting genocide and imperialism.
Then don't vote at all or vote third party, but know that by doing so you've supported Trump. You will be personally responsible for Trump winning. Sleep tight.
I'll sleep tight knowing I did what Muslim-Americans and Palestinians advocated for me to do, refuse to side with genocide and imperialism. Harris will be personally responsible for campaigning on genocide and imperialism, and World War 3, and refusing to address climate change. You will be personally responsible for her campaigning on that platform instead of trying to force her hand.
Don't bother replying if you are just going to continue parroting the Russian propaganda.
Ah, yes, the genocide of Palestinians is "Russian Propaganda." Hope you can turn yourself around.
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