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[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago
[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

calling it the "holy grail" like it's some mythical unreachable thing. The sun's been doing it for the earth since before there were life to use its energy.

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Also, calling it a race implies that both parties are actually trying.

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 month ago

The Holy Grail of energy needs to be so many things. A non exhaustive list:

  1. Clean/low environmental impact
  2. Cheap
  3. Fast to build
  4. Reliable output and able to load-follow
  5. Universally applicable (geography)
  6. Safe
  7. Large scale

Solar and wind don't tick all of these boxes, but neither do fission, fusion, hydroelectric, geothermal, or any other source. That's why we're in this predicament.

The thing about fusion is it doesn't actually bring anything new to the table. It's supposed to be fission but without any radioactive waste, but this isn't actually true. The beryllium cladding in the core of the tokamak (Chinese reactors use this design iirc) becomes irradiated, and when replaced produces a volume of low-level waste far higher than a fission reactor does through its normal operation. And it's going to be way more expensive simply by virtue of being novel to boot.

[-] fox@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I think we could do better than the sun if we really tried. Compost emits more energy per volume than the sun's core, there's just way more core to emit energy

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

so what I'm hearing is that we just need to compost the sun

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

and when china makes a breakthrough it will be declared "cheating" by the west

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Can't believe the Chinese hacked physics, smh

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Funny you mention this. Hitler didn't want research into nuclear energy/weapons to be done and dismissed it as "Jew physics." He literally thought Jewish people like Einstein were just making shit up regarding things like General Relativity or splitting the atom.

The parallels to current America are almost too on-the-nose.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

They stole it from the future!

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

They're undercutting our freedom (to exploit)!

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

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