Tesla, founded by the billionaire CEO Elon Musk, has frequently faced scrutiny over safety issues.
That is incorrect
It is legally correct, but factually incorrect.
Legally how? Was Musk on the original state registration?
He sued for the title and won.
I’m too petty to be a reporter, every time I’d write: “musk, who retroactively won the right to be considered a founder of Tesla in court, …”
It'd also be technically true to say "Elon Musk, CEO and self-proclaimed founder of Tesla..."
Is this the company where he paid a sum of money to the real founder or founders to be called the founder?
Or was that another company?
Correct on the first part, I don't know if he did it for other companies as well.
Thanks! So he's the $$$paidtobecalledafounderlikeastupididiot$$$ of this company.
And it worked. That's the worst part. This article and others call him the founder.
It was Saturday evening around 10pm, three restaurant employees went into one of the client car to "try it out", the client (65 years old) was clearly speeding, lost control of the vehicle, left the road and hit a traffic sign.
My bet is that all of that has nothing to do with the fact that this was a Tesla, the only difference is the fire but this is the same for every electric vehicle.
i wonder if they were unable to open the doors for some non-tesla related reason such as death
Yeah but nobody will click a headline like 'person killed in car crash after speeding and hitting a traffic sign'
Do you have a source?
None of the articles that I checked this morning had that info.
Here is the information from the local news and pictures of the actual accident location, taken on site rather than stock photos.
Edit: this one too https://archive.is/xNDIN
Hmmm I wonder if a vehicle filled with flammable explodey-gas who just drove over 2 metal signs at high speed would be on fire as well? Would it have gotten the attention that this vehicle had, given that ICE cars burn many times more often than EV's do.
It is a tragedy and should be investigated but these articles have to get off the "It's new so it's bad" bandwagon until the investigators come in. It could have been a flat tire at high speeds that sent the car onto that shoulder and over those signs. There is uneven wear on the tires so on the outside of Regenerative Breaking EV's tires look almost new on the outside but trashed on the inside. If it blew because of that, or some nail on the road then there is no fault on Tesla and the man-boy who runs it. If however say steering went or the airbag randomly went off when the car was at speed my least favourite Martian and Tesla would be culpable.
Until then turn the sensationalism on your stories down to 11.
I'm a fan of EVs, but Tesla lacks ~~security~~ safety and I'm not a fan of it.
It's too complicated to leave the car when power is off for example.
Yep. That's my issue. It's not the fire, it's that it's really hard to get out in a disaster.
The Tesla could just have easily killed four if it crashed into water.
If I recall correctly, the manual override for the electric inner door handle is hidden under some panel. Major lawsuit material if you ask me, and irresponsible by the certifying authorities,
no, it wouldn't. Because the car is not filled with aerosolized explodey-gas, but just flammable liquid contained in a robust tank. it is not explosive. It can catch fire, but not simply from impact. You'd need a hole in the tank lower than the current fuel level and an external ignition source. Even if you shoot the gas tank directly, it will not explode. It is physically impossible for it to explode.
Puncture one of an electric car's cells, and it sets off a chain reaction. The whole car very quickly goes up in flames.
A hit car engine is an external ignition source, and gas cars go up in flames daily in the us
"Robust"? Clearly you've never driven an itlian made car!
Alphas tanks are literally made out of plastic. You can poke them with a basic screwdriver.
Yeah it won't go boom, but point being, they're not robust and go in flames fairly often too...
If I made a metal cage for rich people that locked and set on fire, I would go to prison for life probably. This guy does that and sells it to them
If Musk can remote disable the car, can he remote lock the doors and have it speed up?
Can a malicious actor remotely do stuff with your thing you connected to the internet?
Yes.
He'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he can.
If elon can change the breaking for Full Self Driving, he can disable brakes. I wouldn't be surprised to learn if some people figure out how to backdoor a Tesla and disable breaks. Companies are horrible at securing data and with elons fire 50% of employees mentality I wouldn't be surprised if the cybersecurity people get overworked/mess up one day
"Brakes", please.
I'm halfway through rewatching Demolition Man as of yesterday evening. Simon Phoenix blew up the capacitance gel in a car using one of the cop's electrical night sticks. I can only assume that Musk is now going to unfreeze John Spartan to deal with these crimes.
Pretty much all forms of vehicle transport is unsafe. This is why electric cars should be thought of as: good but not ideal.
Elon did not found Tesla
This is true, yeah. He bought the title of founder.
Ooooo sorry, you waived your right to a trail by jury in the EULA you signed.
Not in the EU you didn't.
So the assumption is that they could not exit the vehicle?
I guess the question has so be raised how four people died in a car that didn't roll over.
The good thing is that Tesla has the records and will release them without issues...
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
